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Being an unpaid mod of a community owned by a private company that makes money selling advertising to you based based on data they collect from you.

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That’s insane who in their right mind would dedicate their time to that? And what kind of dogshit company would openly allow that to happen! Glad we’re not there is all I’ll say

I heard about that happening on some site. I read it in an article.

Those poor, starving children

I dig that pun

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So being a Reddit moderator?

“Influencer”

The question was about jobs.

What is the definition of a job? I guess if someone said musician, that would be a career instead? Is a self employed contractor a job or is every client a job? Does an actor have one job or many?

I considered a revenue stream to be a job but I’m not sure now.

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I guess the definition of job is vocation/occupation that generates your main financial income

Main financial income

So if I have 3 positions of employment, only the part time gig that makes me 60% of my income is my job, but not the full time one, or the part time one that makes me a bit of money on the side?

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Well, the main sources of income.

A robbery could be a job too, depends on the point of view

“Influencer” is a “job.” They didn’t mention getting paid.

Part time dog-walker.

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Someone is bitter they can’t make a good salary being on YouTube 🤣

Being a general manager at any retail outlet

Oh god 100%.

This isn’t a matter of life or death, Nicole. This is a Disney Store in a mid-tier mall.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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it’s actually a blue collar job where they do quite a bit of physical labor, at least the good ones. I have more respect for that then a lot of white collar jobs.

You probably shouldn’t decide how much to respect someone for what job they do. Unless they do like a really sketchy or immoral “job”, like a hitman or a scammer or something.

Disagree, I think that the way someone decides to spend their time says a lot about them. Sometimes you just need to work for money, I get that, but often times people just do whatever they fell into because they’re too lazy to chase their dreams or do something actually beneficial for society

Dogshit take tbh

Clearly touched a nerve

Yes, gaslighting idiocy tends to touch a nerve when people are trying to have a good faith discussion 🤷

Because they need money to survive, and their parents can’t help them financially sp they cant get a degree in whatever field, even though every position in the field requires it?

I mention that sometimes this is the case and there’s nothing wrong with that. But you don’t necessarily need a degree to do meaningful work or to chase your dreams, just effort.

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I think the only reason to respect someone is for what they do.

What better measure is there, even if job is only part of that? better to form my opinion of people for what they do rather than the traditional historical measures.

A persons actions are important, but so are personality and motivations. A job isn’t “what someone does because that’s who they are as a person”, it’s the thing that they do because they need to pay their bills. It’s one thing that you know for sure that they have ulterior motives for - money.

I respect people for how they act towards me and others. Are they generous, or selfish? Do they admit when they’re wrong, or do they double down on it? When they have power over others, are they cruel, or are they kind?

This is way more important than what job someone has. Often, what job someone has only gives you a guesstimate as to how wealthy their parents were, and little beyond that.

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Assistant General Managers are even more serious so the sales people pick on them all the time.

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Assistant to the General Manager.

Don’t you mean assistants TO the general manager? 😉

No one has said police yet?

that’s not a job, some people are just Assigned Cop At Birth

They don’t take it seriously enough. They go play army man.

Playing army would mean keeping their cool in hostile territory.

Actually it means raping brutalizing and killing civilians in territory where you are not welcome

YOU know that. They don’t seem to.

I was thinking more that the general population takes them too seriously.

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I disagree. They have the ability to kill people with little repurcussion

Honestly in my line of work I seriously considered Police, but when I noticed it’s essentially a cult I noped out of there

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the problem with police is that

  • the people who should work as a police officer don’t want to be a police officer

  • the people that shouldn’t work as a police want to be a police officer

I don’t think police is inherently a bad thing. It just happens to be because people who want power over others should not have power over others.

similar story with politicians. I’d prefer an honest politician. but the process of picking them selects for those who are dishonest.

Exactly, couldn’t have worded it better. Obviously not all of them all of the time, but it is what it is

CEOs and high ranking business people, what they get to do is not work or work significantly less than a working class people therefore I have no respect for most of em

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The higher up you go the less work you do and the more stress you take on. You’re essentially trading your peace of mind for more money.

When you work a simple manual labor job you clock in and clock out and then go home and live your life. Work stays at the office.

When you’re an executive or a business owner you’re working 100% of the time. Something happens, you need to respond. Sometimes you need to make hard decisions where you’re fucked either way but you need to minimize damage.

You need to find solutions to problems and that keeps you up at night. Don’t have enough money for payroll next week? How you gonna do it? Not pay vendors this week? Take out another line of credit at ridiculous rates? Skip a payment on your rent? Equipment financing?

You have to do something- you stop paying your employees and the company falls apart very quickly. Could start a chain reaction of good people leaving, making the situation worse. The buck pretty much stops with you, you can’t pass off the problem to someone else.

It’s not easy to be in charge. Lot of blame rests on your shoulders if things go wrong.

Of course that doesn’t mean they deserve 10,000x the salary of a regular job. I think CEO pay should be capped to some multiple of regular employee pay. Whatever that scalar value should be 2, 5, or 10 I think is debatable. But it should be capped.

Moving from being a Product Owner, working on my own projects, to being a Product Manager who works with Product Owners on their projects/hands over projects to them, it is far more stressful. I end up being on the hook for everything, with an expectation that I know everything about a dozen projects, despite being far less actively involved in the underlying work of any of them.

Am an executive… agree with you on all fronts

You don’t simply clock in clock out. You walk into a space where everything you do is monitored and critiqued. You are constantly pressured to take on more work, other people’s work, you name it, all while you get paid the same… There’s a lot more flexibility and autonomy as you move up. The stress higher up is peanuts compared to the stress of the working class.

I’ve been at the bottom doing manual labor all the way to the top and everything in between. When I was in manual labor at 19, I thought that it was stressful. Truly. I thought I was swamped with work and was always running around with my head off like a chicken.

But now that I’m older I realize the job was dead simple. I know that because I have more experience with both life and work. If I were put in that same position today, it would feel like a vacation.

Imagine a waitress. Their job can be stressful, sure. But imagine they really fuck up and fall and break a few wine bottles. What’s the potential damages? $100? $200? Let’s say $1,000.

A CEO of even a small company can fuck up and lose millions. The problems are on a whole different scale. You will see as you move up. People think it’s easy to be the boss because they only see from the outside. There’s a price you pay in sanity.

“Running a business is hard work, you wouldn’t believe the number of meetings-”

Oh yeah meetings where you and “experts” on maximizing profits talk about how many people you can get away with laying off this quarter and other meetings where you work out a deal to buy a competitor startup in order to immediately and intentionally run it into the fucking ground sounds really fucking essential to the world Allan

Small business owner here. Just to add to the other responses about the stress and responsibility as you move up that others mentioned here… I cover every one of my employees when they take vacation or sick leave. So I am often doing my job, plus another person’s. It’s not uncommon for me to work 12 hour days without breaks.

I am not reffering to small business owners, but big corporate executives

I don’t think OP was referring to small businesses (< 50 employees), but more like 1000+ employees.

Work shouldn’t be the primary source of stress in our lives no matter what the job is.

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Brb gonna go try to hack the NSA so I have something else to be stressed about

Cops/pigs

You’re handing out a speeding ticket, not saving an orphanage, get off your high horse

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I’ll cop some shit for this one, but coffee baristas.

you put some grounds in a machine, twiddle some nobs and pour milk in a wave pattern

edit: judging by the amount of downvotes ive either pissed off all the Bachelor of Arts grads working as baristas or all the coffee snobs who still think making coffee is some sort of art that can only be done by the most highly trained baristas. Yes, I also love coffee. No, making it is not some sort of complicated thing which is the point of this post (and topic of this thread), and no, I am not disparaging anyone working as a barista (unless they are an Arts grad, sorry) because a job is a job and all jobs deserve respect

It isn’t making the coffee that’s hard, it’s being on your feet for 8 solid hours while getting assaulted by a Karen every 30 minutes and playing the memory game of 3 pumps vanilla no foam cinnamon powder vinti super choco-latte. The coffee is just a minor part of the job.

Tell me you’ve never worked in hospitality without telling me you’ve never worked in hospitality.

This format of “tell me x without telling me x” is such reddit sounding bs.

Oh you should have said it bothered you, I’ll chat to the other posters and we’ll stop it.

Sorry sniper :( x

what

You didn’t make it clear to the rest of us that it annoyed you! We’ll make sure we all tailor our behaviour so you don’t have to deal with the inconvenience of seeing a joke which you’ve deemed unacceptable.

Please accept our sincere apologies, we shall all strive to please you more in future :) x

Weirdo

Would you like me to adjust who I am to better suit your preference too?

I didn’t know the mighty sniper thought I was a weirdo :(

Best coffee is anywhere but the US.

From Asia to Africa, all the shops I’ve visited had good espressos and coffee.

Customer service is also a joke here.

I always wonder what little hell you people live in. There are fan fucking tastic local roasters across the East Coast. It’s crazy easy to get day old roasted beans from just about anywhere on the planet here.

It’s like the people who make fun of the food and have no clue.

Hope so you not have access to good coffee? Where are you located that you can’t get anything good?

The definition of what “good coffee” is vary from place to place. The northeast has absolutely phenomenal American style coffee (focus on drip coffee and long pours), a lot of Europeans are after a really good espresso for €1.5.

What exactly is your definition of “taking too seriously”?

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Discord mod

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Reddit mod

Accounting and banking.

Meter maids (people who see if people didn’t pay to park)

Agreed but I think in a lot of cities they’re gauged on performance by numbers of tickets issued, gotta hate the game for this one not the player who usually don’t want that job and just need the money

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Wasn’t that job replaced by apps like Pango parking?

Park ranger. There are two kinds: chill and friendly, or the kind that make you show all your documents, prove your park stickers are valid, make you repark your car, and then scold you for being too loud even though the next nearest campsite is several hundred feet away and nobody has complained and you arent even being loud…

You’re that camper. Turn the music off.

Nope, no music or media. Just sitting around the campfire telling stories and laughing. Sorry, but 9pm is not late, especially when quiet hour isn’t even until 10 at that particular site.

I don’t care that you like to get up at 5:30am for your morning run, I’ll be totally quiet when the actual park rules say I have to be.

Hmm, doesn’t sound overly specific for an assessment of an entire profession at all. DEFINITELY not based on a single day’s experience 🤔

Rough trend.

Chef. No I’m not calling you a special title and acting like this is the military and you are my commanding officer, we work at the Olive Garden.

All of them, I think.

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