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Itās my dream that AI takes over middle management and bureaucracy as a whole, and we get rid of all the societal evils that come from corrupt or incompetent management in both - governments and companies. Imagine if every single working person had zero ambiguity in their jobs and complete clarity on when they have to work, and on what. The world would be so much happier!
Ideally it would help put real, complicated but achievable solutions forward to some of the worldās toughest issues, like poverty, hunger, war and disaster,. AI is but a tool and in the current trajectory, much of its use is to advance the interest of capitalist moguls. In order to heed answers of improved AI models to achieve ideals of a harmonious world, we need to start with a change with our society to work towards it and accept change away from purely monetary ends.
Any problem that can be expressed mathematically, has a huge search space, and where human intuition doesnāt necessarily help.
For example if a computer can solve chess then that same line of programming should be able to solve quantum physics and gravity.
You should check out the short story Manna. Itās maybe a bit dated now but explores what could go wrong with that sort of thing.
I just read the first two chapters. Yes, it doesnāt paint a pretty picture but the dystopia portrayed in that story started with Manna being an unregulated monopoly that was given power over everything.
In real life you perhaps wonāt take it that far. All decisions would still be made and signed off by humans, AI would just be the planner/scheduler. And no tech services firm would want to get into employability tracking, theyāll quickly get chewed out by regulators if their AI product started discriminating against candidates in hiring.
Yeah. I mean I started reading that story and was thinking how cool it would be⦠Until it started going bad. Something like a GPS for whatever task you were doing at work would be cool.
I have no idea. Last night I literally got AI to give me instructions on how to shave alligator hair and how to inflate a foldable phone.
AI is not actually intelligent, itās a word prediction model. Itās royally ignorant actually.
Because of this, I find it basically boils down to a fancy search engine.
Thatās the thing though, itās not a search engine.
Itās a language prediction model, if you ask something that it has learned well and predicts correctly youāll get a nice answer that makes you feel like itās a search engine.
If you ask something more obscure or confuse it with words, youāll get back garbage that hopefully doesnāt look like a right answer, because itās much better to have a useless answer than a deceiving bad one.
Automatically respond to scam calls and emails, keeping scammers overwhelmed with useless work.
The real robot wars will be the Scam Call AI vs. the Scam Call Answering AI.
It will be like a new version of chess: Bobby Phisher vs. Magnus Callusthen
This is the epitome of those useless machines that turn themselves off.
I mostly see psychological benefits:
For me personally, interacting with AI has helped me conquer some fears and shame that I buried long ago.
Currently the obvious use is to help people express their thoughts in words. Itās helped me a lot writing out resumes and cover letters. This can be extended to languages other than our main/first one.
Itās also great to narrow down research on a personal scale in areas where if you have no expertise it would be very hard for you to figure out what you are looking for. Iāve used it to ID plants, insects and diseases successfully. I didnāt get a precise result from ChatGPT, but thatās not what I asked. I just requested pointers in the right direction. It delivered.
The next obvious implementation is with software interface. Iāve already used it (unsuccessfully) to work with Unreal Engine and other 3d software. I got half baked results because the models were not trained specifically for the software in question. But if they were, it would be very easy to just ask the software how to do something instead of searching everywhere for potential answers. That doesnāt sound too far fetched and I heard itās a feature that will become standard.
I use GitHub Copilot to write code for me, every day
I just looked that up. It looks amazing. Does it really work? Iāve tried using ChatGPT for coding and it sucks.
Iād say it works pretty well most of the time, probably depends on the coding language. I use it regularly for PHP/Laravel and JS, and still get surprised when it delivers full working functions from a comment.
Thereās a free trial, give it a try
Iāve never had much success having Copilot write actual code. Where is been very helpful is in writing documentation, boilerplate, and just being a very smart autocomplete. That alone has saved me so much time and energy already.
Iām curious about this. What model were you using? A few people at my game dev company have said similar things about it not producing good code for unity and unreal. I havenāt seen that at all. I typically use GPT4 and Copilot. Sometimes the code has a logic flaw or something, but most of the time it works on the first try. I do at this point have a ton of experience working with LLMs so maybe itās just a matter of prompting? When Copilot doesnāt read my mind (which tends to happen quite a bit), I just write a comment with what I want it to do and sometimes I have to start writing the first line of code but it usually catches on and does what I ask. I rarely run into a problem that is too hairy for GPT4, but it does happen.
I am not sure if my answer is correct- Iāve tried ChatGPT to help me with Unreal in February/March this year. I canāt recall what model.
As for my query- Iām an artist, not a coder. I found ChatGPT would usually point me in the right direction if I had a simple interface question, but not when dealing with materials⦠Or the sequencer. I havenāt used Copilot though.
Ahh ok that makes sense. I think even with GPT4, itās still going to be difficult for a non-programmer to use for anything that isnāt fairly trivial. I still have to use my knowledge of stuff to know the right things to ask. In Feb or Mar, you were using GPT3 (4 requires you to pay monthly). 3 is much worse at everything than 4.
Tax it. If corporations use it to replace employees, they should at least also have to contribute to the improvement of society.
Labour-less advancement. Human pass down centuries of advancement in languages.
The automation gone from āmultiple coffee gadgetsā to ā1 standard coffee buttonā to āa warm coffee of less sugar requestā. (Now, where are humanās place in this picture? A balloon human such in Wall-E movie?)
We could outsource all the bureaucracy to machines. We could have entire data centres applying to things, sending that to another data centre, it getās denied re-done and so on. Doing contracts, billing people, paying bills by billing yet other people.
Humankind would just need to supply power and meanwhile i could go hiking in the mountains and have every thursday and friday off, because there is no paperwork around anymore.
I see endless possibilities, but itās questionable if any of them are realistic before we overcome capitalism.
But one idea I really like is AI helping with the implementation of sortition for democratic decision-making in government.
Recently, the concept got some attention due to climate protesters demanding it, which I think is nice. So while I donāt want to discuss the concept and where it should be applied, hereās what (future) AIs could do:
Enhanced Random Selection Process: AI can ensure a representative selection from the population for sortition by analyzing demographic data and employing stratified sampling algorithms.
Personalized Education and Communication: Once participants are selected, AI could offer personalized learning paths to prepare them for their role, and adapt communication to suit each participantās unique circumstances.
Facilitating Communication and Mediation: AI can manage communication among the selected group by setting up secure environments for discussion, and serving as an impartial mediator to promote fairness and respectfulness during deliberations.
Information Provision, Fact-Checking, and Bias Detection: AI can provide relevant, unbiased information on complex topics, perform real-time fact-checking, and monitor discussions for potential biases.
Emotion and Sentiment Analysis: As discussions take place, AI could detect the emotional states and sentiments of participants, ensuring decisions are not overly influenced by emotional reactions.
Advanced Simulation and Scenario Exploration: AI could create sophisticated simulations to help participants understand potential outcomes of the policies they are considering.
Public Accountability and Feedback Collection: After decisions are made, AI can ensure transparency in decision-making by tracking and reporting the progress of the deliberations, and collecting public feedback on the decisions made.
I should probably add that this list was made with the help of GPT š so a more direct answer to your question might be: AI can help humans lay out their ideas and foster discussions.
Thatās the scariest thing Iāve read in a long time. Iāve gotten so many completely made up āfactsā from AI that I wouldnāt want to hand it the keys to my car, much less my freedom. It even cites itās sources, which donāt exist if you actually check them. The fact that the creators canāt even explain why this is happening makes it even more scary. Iām not scared of AI. Iām just scared of people trusting it. Itās about as trustworthy as a politician, but arguably a lot smarter.
Not generally disagreeing with you, but I doubt the following
What do you mean we canāt explain it? Itās designed specifically to make up some text that is very statistically likely. If it doesnāt have anything similar in itās training data, it will try to extrapolate, and that gives you hallucinations.
Capitalism isnāt the problem here, itās unregulated capitalism that doesnāt work.
Also, you can dislike it but so far, capitalism tampered with socialism, is the best system we have so far. The best Countries in terms of human happines and opportunities (think the Scandinavian states especially and most of central europe generally) are capitalist democracies. We however realised, unlike the US, that you canāt just let corporation do anything they wan and that the state has an obligation to provide services and help to itās people.
This anti-capitalist sentiment os so common and not really founded in reality that it feels like a mere buzz word at this point.
I use it to summarize search results on a certain topic, like what packages hold this or that library, stuff like that⦠or as a more comprehensive man page generator.
Side note, itās pretty early days but weāve just setup an !aistuff@lemdro.id community on Lemdro.id (where /r/android calls its home in the Fediverse).
Thatās a great question! Itās something I think about a lot. This is probably gonna sound sarcastic, but I mean it genuinely: Have you asked ChatGPT (or any other LLM) that question? Iād be curious to hear what it might have to say. Of course, its first few answers are probably gonna be just generic, useless stuff, so youāll have to really drill down into details to find something useful. But you might be able to find some good ideas in there.
Here are two things that immediately came to mind:
Democratization of knowledge and expertise. Think of the many people that now have access to (e.g.) a virtual doctor just because they have an internet connection. As with everything Iām going to say, this comes with the big caveat that nobody should trust LLMs unquestioningly and that they definitely hallucinate and confabulate frequently. Still, though, they can potentially provide quick diagnoses and relevant, immediate, life-saving information in situations where itās difficult or impossible to get an appointment with a doctor.
Handling information problems. I heard someone say recently that because LLMs are likely to be used for spam, ads, propaganda, and other kinds of information distortions and abuses, LLMs will also be the only systems capable of combating those things. For example, if people start using LLMs to write spam emails, then LLMs will almost certainly have to become part of the spam detection process. But even in cases where information isnāt being used maliciously, we still struggle with information overload. LLMs are already being used to sift through (e.g.) the daily news, pick out the top few most important articles, and summarize them for readers. Finding a signal among the noise is actually quite important for all parts of life, so augmenting our ability to do that could be very useful.
I suspect those answers might be broader and larger-scale than what you were asking for. If so, I apologize!
Itās curious to hear AI detection as being a feature, given that itās just the same machine being used āin reverseā - that arms race will just leave humans unable to know what is real.
Yeah, I agree. Less a āfeatureā and more a necessary evil.
LLMās are worthless and Iām skeptical theyāll ever be otherwise. I think for a program that works roughly like ChatGPT from a userās perspective to ever achieve usefulness would require a whole different algorithm.
Aight so Iāve been holding off on making conversation since I generally disagree with most of the negative sentiment towards them. But for real, you think theyāre worthless? Legit at their present moment theyāve got so much immediate value; how much have you used them?
Iāve pulled tremendous value from them. In my personal life, GPT-4 walked me through developing a Kotlin android app for my smart watch so that I could have access to it more easily and conveniently. Itās provided me guidance and knowledge, even teaching me German and Spanish and holding practice conversations with me. At work, itās helped me write programs to improve my productivity, taught me how to use software like Excel, and just overal helps me be more capable.
And all that is just one personās value from it. Just imagine what value itās creating right now for the millions who use it. Just imagine what it could do in the hands of innumerable virtuous and malicious individuals. It is so far from worthless
Do you trust that the German itās teaching you is real German? All itās trained to do is to generate something that could pass as German.
I donāt speak German, but so far my conversations in Spanish have been flawless. So I would trust ChatGPT with language in that regard.
FYI: Itās the same with german. I think youāre quite alright with the ābigā languages. I didnāt spend much time with ChatGPT, but even some smaller language models speak multiple languages well enough. I tend to use english, i think the sentences are a bit more expressive and nuanced. But with ChatGPT thatās probably barely noticable.
I will admit Iāve never used them. Iām not keen on providing my email address to huxters for purposes of signing up and they wonāt accept a disposable email address. At least not one Iāve been able to find.
Iāll be honest, though. Running into someone extolling the benefits of LLMās, I wonder if they have ulterior motives. A lot of the cryptobros are now jumping ship from the blockchain bandwagon to the AI bandwagon. (Because the blockchain bubble has partially burst now and the AI bubble is still going strong.)
With cryptocurrencies or NFTās, anyone telling you it was the best thing ever was always misrepresenting their own gains and telling lies about the capabilities of blockchain. Maybe they were themselves deluded, but the ultimate motivation to extoll the benefits of blockchain was not actual benefits, but rather that the extoller was invested. If they could be convinging enough and their audience believed them and invested, the value of the extollerās investment would go up.
Now, LLMās are known to hallucinate. And very confidently and convincingly. None of the content of what LLMās produce can be trusted for factual accuracy. LLMās as a technology are just not suitable for producing factual output and will always be inferior to platforms like StackOverflow or⦠what Reddit used to be.
So, what youāve claimed GhatGPT has helped you with: Software development, language aquisition, and learning how to use software (Excel specifically). I really hope youāre not just copying programs out of ChatGPT and using those programs at work without auditing them first. If you have the skills to vet code, then what do you need ChatGPT for? And would plain-old Google not do a better job? And for learning Excel as well?
And as others have said, I wouldnāt trust any language learning I got from ChatGPT.
So, when Beanie Babies were at the height of their economic bubble, people were robbing stores and engaging in fist fights to get them. I very much believe that the hype around AI lately is causing a lot of terrible things. Big companies are publicly announcing theyāre āreplacing jobsā with AI. I think some of those cases are just big corporations finding dumb ways to put positive PR spins on āweāre laying off a lot of peopleā without actually intending to replace them with AI. I think some big businesses are actually swept up in the hype and think āreplacing people with AIā is actually going to work out for them. Maybe some companies are somewhere in the middle: laying people off with the intention of getting them back on a part-time contracting basis for lower pay as āeditorsā of content output by ChatGPT. But really theyāll be doing the same job, just less efficiently and for lower pay.
Again, look at the effect Beanie Babies had on the world. And that proved to have been a worthless nothing burger all along. The effects the AI hype is having on the world is no proof that itās anything other than worthless lie-generating machines.
My ulterior motives are the same as yours: convey a strong opinion. Itās not like making others as optimistic about this as I am will change anything. Even if we both agreed to forget the concept, the cat is out of the bag; open sourced LLMs are getting better and access is getting cheaper. Everyone is impotent to stop whatās about to happen, itās as futile as trying to stop torrenting copyrighted media. And more advanced they become, the less people need to be involved to make a large impact with it.
Also to clarify, ChatGPT and GPT-4 are two different AIs with different capabilities. I used GPT-4, the better AI. There are many different LLM AIs out there now with varied strengths, weaknesses, and attitudes. ChatGPT is old news, so please donāt use it as your sole resource to judge LLMs (especially as you havenāt used it yet).
The language itās taught me is valid; the programs successful. I have programming knowledge, but its expertise often surpasses my own and is thus an invaluable resource. There is remarkably limited risk in using it as the tools are limited in scope and I am not a programmer by profession (it just helps); in any case, it writes secure code mostly and is only getting better over time. I imagine soon its kind will take over this domain entirely as their context limits and capabilities continue to grow.
Youāre probably seeing so many crypto bros liking this AI because theyāre much more risk tolerant than the average person. These AIs are as much a risk as they are an opportunity. While I am optimistic, I fully recognize that things could go horribly wrong.
With an opinion as strong as yours, I only ask that you look into it more before being so confident in your dismissal. At least try it out first before you denounce it as worthless and disregard the experiences of others
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