I had no idea of the size and variety of the Fediverse! It has me feeling a bit overwhelmed. I’m enjoying BookWyrm very much; it’s the GoodReads/LibraryThing replacement I’ve been looking for for years.

I love the simplicity of Paper.wf for blogging. It’s truly elegant; I just click the link and start typing. But as far as I can tell there’s no way for others to find my blog or for me to find other blogs on the site. There’s no browse or follow feature. Nor can anyone comment on my posts! Those seem to me to be HUGE omissions.

Have you used any Fediverse blogging options? What are they like? And what other Fediverse services would you recommend? Other than Mastodon, I’ve already tried that (it didn’t excite me).

Fediverse is well differentiated into many sites offering similar capabilities to their more well established commercial and proprietary counterpart, and as the time passes these federated alternatives quality is nearing practically the production level, apart from Mastodon and Lemmy which are the most known by now it is worth mentioning also PeerTube (Youtube), PixelFed (instagram), Misskey, Calckey and Pleroma (a mix between twitter and tumblr), HubZilla (facebook), FunkWhale(Bandcamp) and OwnCast (twitch).

Here some handy links:

https://joinfediverse.wiki/Main_Page

https://www.fediverse.to/

https://fediverse.party/

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I use GoToSocial with Sempahore for my microblogging (alternative to Mastodon).

Also Owncast as an alternative to Twitch.

And then I watch tilvids.com and other Peertube instances for videos.

And of course Lemmy. :-D

Oh and then there’s Funkwhale for audio.

It’s all in different states of usability, depending on the communities involved.

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Do I need to create separate accounts on each of those or can I use this one? Can I log in to Funkwhale with this account or get Funkwhale posts here on kbin, or am I better creating a separate account on each “thing”? I’m still very new to this whole fediverse thing…

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One of the eventual goals of kbin is to be compatible with the rest of the fediverse and to “just work” with the rest of it. By way of comparison, Lemmy is basically just a federated Reddit, so, this is actually one of the reasons I chose to go with kbin.

From a practical standpoint, it’ll likely be a while before that becomes a reality, but I like that as a goal.

I’d say see if you can search for the instance in the search (once we’re 100% federated) and if it doesn’t work and it’s something you want to participate in, unfortunately, you’ll need to go there directly.

Also - Your kbin.social account can only log into kbin.social, you can’t use it to log into any other sites (this would include other kbin sites, lemmy sites, mastodon sites, etc…), what you can do is see content from those sites by subscribing to them or on the front page (non-subscribed)

I’m still waiting for a really good Peertube instance.

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Understandable. But it’s the chicken and egg problem. Creators don’t want to create content, because there’s no consumers. Consumers don’t want to sign up, because there’s no creators.

So are you the chicken or the egg? :-D

If you’re on one you don’t like anymore you could always change instances and watch videos there. If you’re worried about losing comments, well you can comment from other Fediverse servers such as Mastodon or GoToSocial and they show up on the page for the video. :-)

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What happens when instances die off, would their comments be deleted and you’d have threads with half conversations everywhere?

I believe once a post or comment is federated it will continue to stay even if the instance it came from is no longer in service. instances are not “streaming” the data to each other, they send copies and store it in their own dbs. So this comment right here will have a bunch copies out there on other instances.

You know what, Peertube needs the equivalent of an acquisition and the perfect candidates would be, and I’m on record saying this before, DailyMotion and Vimeo. They’ve already got content and by implementing activitiypub integration, they can grow their audiences and compete with YouTube for once and for all.

But yeah, for me. I haven’t even found a video to watch let alone comment. That said, my YouTube is generally me watching album reactions, music videos, Hot Ones, Adam Something and Beard Meats Food.

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Nothing stopping Vimeo from plumbing in ActivityPun amd joining the Fediverse. It’s open and the only reason no one does is because the data is valuable and they don’t want to share and play nice.

These walled gardens were not how the internet was imagined.

I’ve found several good videos/channels on urbanists.video which is kind of specific to urbanism but still there’s some good stuff. The videos have a lot lower production quality than most YouTube channels, but I actually kind of like how casual it is.

They’re just making videos because they have something interesting/funny/educational to share and they’re not out there trying to make money.

Cass.Forest
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Re PeerTube, as a creator, is it worth it to try an find an instance that suits my content right now?

ozoned
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If you’re putting your content up on Youtube right now, then Peertube can just mirror that content without much work. At least that’s my understanding. I’m not a Youtuber. diode.zone is one I’ve used in the past which doesn’t really have any kind of gatekeeping.

However, I personally enjoy TILVids the most. They’re curated. You ahve to talk to the TILVids admin to get access and he kind of is there to help folks get started and if you take off then he suggests you create your own. That happens with few. TechLore for instance just did this. But he does have a focus on videos that help folks learn things, but even GamingOnLinux mirrors there.

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I would start using Owncast however, a) my current lease at my apartment prohibits me running a server (because internet is included in the rent), and b) I don’t have any kind of computer to run a server on for Owncast.

ozoned
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Hetzner is $5 a month for a VPS that would run it. And what constitutes a “server”? A server is just another name for a computer.

Cass.Forest
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As someone who is already in debt because of a bad month with work, I’m not sure if I’m able to put out for a VPS. And as for the “server” thing, what I meant was I don’t have a computer I can dedicate to near 100% uptime for running the instances I’d want to.

ozoned
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Got you. Totally understand. I used to be in the same situation. $5/month is sometimes better spent somewhere else. With Owncast you only really need it up when you’re stream. You could do that from your PC you’re playing on, but idk the kind of overhead that’d cause.

Just a side note, ActivityPub protocol - the core engine that lets all of fediverse to talk to the rest of the fediverse is… 5 years old. Every feature imaginable is still to be implemented.

@BobQuasit@beehaw.org
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Thanks, that’s good to know! I’ve been wondering where I can make recommendations for features to be added. Although I’m sure the devs are working themselves to death right now.

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Some, but it’s open source and a lot of people have day jobs. I’ve wanted to contribute to some things that are annoying me, but after work, exercise, taking the dog out, and making dinner, I have like 2 hours of my time…. so it’s hard to rally.

So ditch the dog, ditch the job, and make it happen. No excuses!

Is/will there be a movie/TV equivalent of BookWyrm, something to track and discuss what you’ve been watching? A quick search tells me it’s been discussed and seems like something people want but it doesn’t look like it’s been done yet, at least not as a dedicated service. Is that right?

Calckey has the superior feature set to Mastodon by far. When the project matures, it’ll be a force to reckon with.

Calckey certainly looks cool and feature rich, but every Calckey instance’s main page alone slows my computer down a lot and overwhelms my eyeballs lol. Don’t know what to do to make that better.

To bad the name makes it sound like terminal spreadsheet application.

@BobQuasit@beehaw.org
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YES! It’s the most imposing name imaginable. And not at all intuitive.

🦊 OneRedFox 🦊
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The good news is that they announced that they’re changing the name soon; they have not said what it will be though.

They’ve just announced it! The new name is Microsoft Excel 365.

That may help its adoption … if the name change is an improvement.

How is the first I’ve heard of Clackey? Their website is the most inviting one I’ve seen with the Fediverse so far.

The project is only like a month or two old, though it is a fork of a more well-established Fediverse platform (MissKey), so it’s still building up awareness of its existence.

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