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This is fucking gross. Thereâs no one who thinks people will read the mass shit they pump out.
A lot of sites like these are already just click farms with âarticlesâ consisting of a headline and a couple poorly-researched sentences. Switching to AI probably wonât significantly change the quality of what theyâre churning out.
Right. Thatâs why searching for anything on the internet SUCKS these days. The results are all just filler bullshit.
Something to keep in mind is that these companies arenât concerned with total profit or revenue or anything like that - itâs all about the percentage. I suspect in the short term, these AI-articles will look very profitable. Networking effects, consumer habits, and SEO will carry the day for a time.
But what always screws these MBA types is the inability to recognize the specific natures of their business and the second order effects. Not all costs are representable on a spread-sheet.
Basically, the second order to me really boils down to this: AI generated content isnât really a âbrandâ. Good writing shops tend to build a following with their writers and expectations with their editors. The writing, investigative, and editorial bent of a house is essentially what makes a shop. See The Economist and The New Yorker as examples. In other places, a lot of niche shops are selling personality as much as product with youtube, podcasts, and others.
this means there is no real âvalue addâ someone like an AI shop can provide. You are throwing yourselves down the hole of becoming a pure commodity, and as every business major knows, being a commodity sucks. Short term profitable, but literally no one cares about where a mass produced nail comes from and its a race to the bottom of price.
So, as time goes on, with the barrier for entry being incredibly low, every bill and joe who fancies themselves an SEO wizard has no reason to not jump in, so your competition rises and your ability to charge some value for (ads?) drops a lot. But thatâs the tip of the iceberg. Many of the companies that would occupy this brandless, commodity-filling space are way better positioned to make a run at it than the GAMURS Groups of the world. Microsoftâs Bing chat and (probably soon to follow Bard) will whip your ass in the long-game. Why search Bing to get an AI article from the Escapist when Bing will do it for me? I really doubt anything churned out by an AI with some edits will be that much better per convenience.
This whole could easily collapse in on itself. Like a lot of people in the AI space, Iâm interested to watch what happens when AI begins to consume and be built on its own content.
Yep. This is why Iâve been a paying subscriber to Ars Technica for over a decade. Youâre exactly correct. Ditto with NPR.
Considering how many blogs are just AI generated garbage now, it doesnât surprise me that the big players are looking to automate their articles.
The issue is that AI canât really create⌠it just remakes what it already knows and has seen before. No hot takes. No new ideas. Just whatever has been done before.
Hopefully this isnât the new way everything goesâŚ
Also, Chat GPT at least still writes at the level of a somewhat talented ninth grader. Its prose is stilted, and the way it structures essays and stories is super formulaic.
Itâs absolutely not at the level it can replace a talented human writer yet. (I have no doubt that day is coming, probably sooner than we think, but itâs not here yet.)
So publishers making the switch will see the quality of their content drop, and with it the number of clicks / revenue they get. Enough to offset the salaries of all the writers they fired? Probably depends on the publication. For clickbait farms, probably not, but the higher quality the readers are used to the more the publishers stand to lose.
Iâve been to Destructoid. They donât hire talented human writers. They barely hire human writers.
I mean, I feel like a mildly talented 9th grader is around as good as my writing ever got, so I think itâs understandable thatâs about as good as youâre likely to see for awhile from AI generated text.
doesnât the average american read at a 6th grade level or something?
Writing is harder than reading. For example, compare the writing in a childrenâs book to something written by a child
54% (130 million) Americans read BELOW the equivalent of a 6th grade level.
A lot of the reason for this is chronic underfunding of K-12 ESL programs in southern states and California.
Iâm just waiting until these models get completely unraveled by training on output. The more people use generative AI to make stuff online, the more useless the internet is as a data source.
The enshitification of the internet continues. How can we offer our content, but without having to pay anyone for it and at a much higher rate of delivery? By not giving a fuck about the quality anymore and not having any real competition so people have no choice. Except people always have a choice. We can walk away.
I donât see why people would even go to a site to read AI generated articles and be bombarded with ads. I could just ask an AI to write an article for me? Just cut out the middle man at that point.
Doesnât have to be voluntary on the userâs part. Maybe they clicked a link on Google? Or maybe a site theyâve been reading for ages suddenly switches to âAI editorsâ and itâs never really announced to the users in a clear way
Yep. Someone will make an app to generate click bait for you on the fly.
The sites donât mention the AI authorship, so you go there to read an article, likely one you found linked elsewhere, only to be baffled by the ramblings.
Noted. Iâm officially starting a ânot reading your crapâ list.
Yep, time to just blackhole their DNS entries.
Cnet, too. They crapped out some misinformation ridden ai generated articles a while ago.
⌠until someone will use an AI to generate a whole publication⌠or a whole set of them⌠or an entire publisher⌠or an entire holding owning the publisherâŚ
Iâve just seen Black Mirror S06E01 yesterday night and it did hit deep
I had no idea Black Mirror was back, thank you for this comment. Now I just have to find the time to watch it :P
Yo, I donât mean to get all John Connor or anything, but we need to put a stop to and legislate against AI. Full stop.
We already see how itâs being misused.
What would you legislate here? The publication clearly doesnât care about quality and paying some people to fill shitty, already pre programmed templates and using something like chatGPT seems like the same style of crap.
They were definitely not a safe source of labor.
Also, Iâd caution against reactive takes of âlegislationâ when the politicians who can legislate usually donât understand the technologies and are simply trying to bundle stuff in for their lobbyist (who funds them) benefit. The same types who âwant to ban encryptionâ or other myopic takes.
Stronger rights and guarantees around imbalances of power (not specifically related to tech either) would work much better than just reacting to an AI scare.
Having to put a disclaimer if an article is written using AI (like they have to do for advertorial) would be a good step.
Content farms have been polluting the web for years, to the point that search engines are near totally unreliable. But this new wave of AI-powered content farms, and even worse, AI-driven content from once respected and trustworthy orgs, is going to make things exponentially worse
Agree đŻ Whatâs wild is that itâs been taught that you have to use âestablishedâ publications for reliable and accurate information. AI (in)famously can just make things up, and itâs going to be at major sites
This may be a little tangential, but does anyone know of any game news sites with RSS feeds that have talented writers working for them? Some of the sites Iâve followed for years have been regurgitating Twitter opinions more and more, and it makes finding thoughtful (or just plain informative) articles far more difficult.
If you like MMOs and other multiplayer games, https://massivelyop.com/ is very good. Talented writers funded by reader donations.
Iâve been following that publication for a while, actually, and I agree. Theyâre a great team.
Any service looking to replace human writers with ai is positioning itself for failure once generative ai becomes more mainstream. Once your average Joe can ask a native phone app for anything they want, the Only value of written text will be the human element.
This is actually an incredibly good point. This applies to writing, visual arts, music, programmingâŚ
I just donât see ChatGPT being capable enough quite yet. These articles are going to be low quality, written in the same voice, and filled with factual errors. Not to mention released at a volume that nobody will bother to keep up with. Seems like self destruction on their part.
An AI writer is always going to be trash. AI canât experience anything, only remix preexisting content. So itâll always be a regurgitation of what others have posted. But if we keep cutting out humans, then itâll eventually be nothing content on repeat.
There is also always a chance that itâs simply going to be wrong, ML cannot differentiate what is the truth or not. We see it happen with easy mistakes that people wouldnât make and itâs going to be even worse when they get used for something more nuanced or complex.
To be honest, Iâm intrigued to see just how badly this will go. I expect some open job positions soon
We as humans are already sensationalizing content for clicks. I canât imagine what content is going to look like even in the near future with AI at the reigns.
The solution is the same as with the current shitty clickbait of today, ignore it.
If they automate shovelling useless crap (which theyâve already done quite a bit without the likes of chatgpt) then itâs on the user to say âIâm not just gonna consume your crap, Iâll go elsewhere with my views, which are your success metric, in aggregateâ
Ugh, not The Escapist. I mean you see a lot of AI written articles nowadays so it will only ramp up, but itâs still bad.
Sure, flush your websites reputation down the toilet. Good luck with that.