Mercedes is the first German automaker to adopt Tesla’s plug.
Mercedes adopts Tesla’s EV charger.
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„… which is rapidly becoming the de facto charging standard in North America and Europe.“
Wait? Europe? I have never heard of anyone in Europe switching to NACS. Europe is all CCS2, even Tesla uses CCS2. Only Model S and X are using a custom Tesla-Solution which is based on the Typ2 AC-Connector. An probably switch to CCS2 in the next generation cars.
So, definitely no NACS in Europe as far as I know.
You have to go out of your way to even find Tesla charging stations in Germany. They are comparatively rare and far in between.
Could be worse.
https://imgur.com/a/x592xFG
The whole article reads like a tesla ad. Uptime percentages for Tesla which can’t be confirmed and nothing except “plagued by downtime” for other chargers. Tesla is doing this because other companies are eating their lunch. Elon literally said he’d never do 400v because no one needs it and now look at him.
And it’s ridiculously backwards. The CCS 2 standard allows for so much more than Tesla’s connector and yet people act like NACS is better. It’s literally called North American Charging Standard for a reason, because no one else uses it.
Yeah, only 400V. :/ a lot of cars will have 800V in the future. Of course, they have technology built in to be compatible to 400V charging. But the automakers using 800V are already speculating the drop the 400V compatibility as soon as possible because it will get less and less relevant. (Despite Tesla, most new installed chargers are 400V chargers… is anyone else installing still 400V???)
And 900A charging through this tiny NACS connector… well. For how long? 2 minutes? I’m still quite sceptical.
We‘ll see what happens.
ABB is supporting it therefore EA is supporting it, therefore it’s only a matter of time before VW is supporting it. Stellantis basically has no choice. V4 superchargers will have 800v so Hyundai-Kia should be able to jump on board, assuming the V2L stuff is worked out. Not sure of the status of that on NACS right now but it shouldn’t be a big lift for Hyundai since at this point it’s more of a physical difference.
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Standard business practice. Every company create their own proprietary stuff and try to make them the standard via lobbying etc, then earn money from other companies when their stuff becomes the standard.
@ArtVandelay @SafetyGoggles From what I read, Tesla offers the specification for their plug for free. So they don’t earn money with licenses.
TL;DR: If you want to use Tesla’s charger patent, you’re allowing Tesla to steal your patent and you can’t sue Tesla for it, even if the patent is not related to charging technology.
Well yes, but to use it the company will have to give up a lot.
From https://www.makeuseof.com/why-manufacturers-dont-use-tesla-superchargers/:
@SafetyGoggles Ah okay. And especially concerning the erratic behaviour of Elon Musk, this could be problematic.
As of last month, SAE is making NACS an open standard (properly open, not just in name). So if you want to make an NACS charger, you get permission from SAE, not Tesla.
https://www.sae.org/news/press-room/2023/06/sae-international-announces-standard-for-nacs-connector
I’m not a lawyer, and I don’t know for sure that there isn’t any patent-pledge sneakery involved here, but I would be a lot more comfortable using those designs myself if they were published by a standards body like ISO, IEC, or SAE.
Looking like the Tesla connector is well on its way to becoming the standard now. GM, Ford, Rivian, (I’m forgetting one), and now Mercedes all switching over. The Tesla Supercharger network in the US is fantastic, much better than the alternative. Hopefully that doesn’t go downhill as more cars flood the network.