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God I cant even imagine the shit they see. I saw a podcast episode of one and it just made me sad, think the podcast was other people’s lives
They don’t get thanked, they get PTSD.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebook-content-moderator-interviews-trauma-working-conditions-arizona
It’s a long read, but very much worth it. It goes into detail about the types of material these people have to spend all day watching and reviewing, and talks in length about some of the unhealthy coping mechanisms these teams develop for themselves. Lots of drug use, sex in the office, and suicidal ideation.
While the article focuses mainly on Facebook moderators, I used to share an office with YouTube’s content moderation team around the time this article came out, and a lot of the article rings true for YouTube, as well. I imagine it’s similar across all the big platforms.
a significant portion of my job is to moderate and provide first line direction of all the social media pages for a huge company that commissions my company. We dont do any marketing or real engagement just moderation and essentially telling people to reach out to customer service per big company’s poorly provided directions. I don’t particularly care much for big company’s product but ive seen some really nasty people with attitudes towards my and my coworkers as if we physically made and handed them a defective product. We do sympathize and understand a certain level of anger but there are some people who are just outright cunts. It doesent help that big company does big company things and barely has customer support so more of the anger is directed towards us social media people
If you’re a public moderator (eg. on reddit) you get thanked if you’re doing a good job.
But not nearly as much as you get verbally abused or defamed.
There are (or were) definitely some subs that were harder to moderate than others I’d imagine.
Gaming subs: Easy
Ask subs: Intermediate
Location-based subs: Hard
Political subs: Ironman
Waste pickers in the clothing canyons of Ghana, or any other landfill/wasteland
Volunteer caregivers for people with disabilities, especially in places where there are limited or no social safety nets
Street vendors like the children hawking goods in Yemen or Samoa or Zimbabwe…
Cleaners, such as the Sewer divers in places like India where there is no protective equipment provided
Food services workers.
“Domestic” services workers like childcare, housekeeping, etc. I include victims of forced marriages here.
All other exploited, outsourced, trafficked, and/or forced labour, such as the cobalt miners in Congo, or the clothing sweatshop workers in Bangladesh, or the Phillipines call centre workers, or the hazelnut pickers in Turkey, or construction labourers in Qatar, or the chaingangs in the US.
Our supply chains for everything are filled with slavery. 49.6 million people were living in modern slavery in 2021, of which 27.6 million were in forced labour and 22 million in forced marriage. That’s an estimated increase of 10 million people from 2016 to 2021.
thanks for this very exhaustive list. this is the first time ive heard of sewer divers - with no PPE - sounds terrible.
Sudharak Olwe has spent a lot of time documenting the lives of “conservancy workers” in Mumbai. His entire body of work is worth a look, but here is one collection. The photo I see most frequently is the one of a worker neck-deep in a drain
Terrible is certainly a good word to describe it.
Klick on those links with caution, especially the collection ist most definitely NSFL.
This is a great comment, and I believe the best addition to the thread.
I think you may really like this 4 part music/art video series.
Filastine - Abandon
From the description: Abandon bridges video art, documentary, and music to explore how we sell our time on earth, and how we could imagine to get free. Each of the four episodes profiles a unique personal revolt against low-valued work: an Indonesian miner, a Portuguese maid, American office workers, and Spain’s scrap metal salvagers.
Thanks for sharing that! I confess dance is not really a medium I appreciate enough, but the music and filmography and overall sentiment were great. It reminds me of my favourite movie, Baraka.
If you haven’t seen it, it’s a beautiful collection of global footage with music, and arguably more optimistic than I am. But it was from 1992 when things did seem a little more hopeful. It’s in a similar vein to the Qatsi trilogy, which is more famous.
This is just one “Chapter”/song from it, but it’s something I think about often. It’s probably the saddest part of an otherwise emotionally varied film: Baraka: Dead Can Dance - Host of Seraphim (7mins 14sec) Unfortunately none of the people here are actors or performers though, except the Japanese Butoh dancers at the end of it.
I can’t help but wonder how many of these people have survived the last 30 years since this movie.
Baraka and Samsara are both amazing films
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Cook.
Kitchen staff, for the most part, work long hours in chronically understaffed kitchens for very little pay. You get a break when things slow down and chances are you’re going to be eating, hitting the bathroom, and trying to get a little sit time in a milk crate out back in that short little window (hint, pick two of those, the third might not happen).
You get burned, cut, over heated, covered in filth, and breathe in noxious crap all day from stoves, fryers, industrial cleaning chemicals, and other things.
You, probably, and a lot of your coworkers are short tempered, sore, tired, and possibly on drugs or alcohol. You are surrounded by ideal weapons for hurting others and you will be in or see a fight every so often.
Wait staff pretend to like you but really they work shorter shifts, go home relatively unscathed, and make a fortune in tips. So you also dislike and resent them. You don’t want to but see above.
You work when everyone else is off so you end up hanging out with people in similar situations who aren’t always the best people for things like networking into a better job. They really like partying though, and who needs a future.
Then you get a little older. Maybe you are running a kitchen and finally don’t need to have roommates to afford the horrible apartment but you’re only there about seven hours in a row at any given time. You met someone through friends but they don’t see a future because you are always working.
Eventually, health issues force you to find other work and you claw your way to normalcy 15 years behind everyone else in retirement saving, salary growth, and so on.
Well fuck man I’m a senior in highschool and I was debating between culinary school and IT/engineering or something the like. Just made my choice a hell of a lot easier.
I just left the restaurant industry after 10 years (mostly as a cook). This is too accurate, unfortunately 😐
Oh shit. My daughter just started culinary school. Is there a fulfilling path forward for her?
Food is art and just like art the people that produce them often run on razor thin margins. Aside from being a celebrity or an extremely niche job like being a private chef I am not sure if there is a lot of culinary work that pays very well.
It’s certainly an excellent hobby and life skill (you’ll never be hungry again) but you can very easily learn that from home by watching other famous chefs.
I haven’t worked in the industry since the late 90s so maybe it’s better now?
There are positives. I learned that stress is transitory and I don’t have to give in to it. Staying calm and working the system is how you survive getting slammed (overwhelmed by orders). I was in charge of a kitchen as sous chef in my early twenties, hiring people, ordering the supplies and ingredients, preparing for banquets and events. This was a massive confidence builder. I learned how to work with people I literally could not stand, and got to work with people I would back up in any situation.
Plus your going to be a good cook for the rest of your life and that’s a big plus. You might not want to cook when you are not at work but you can and that’s great for family entertaining and your own personal enjoyment later in life.
I also traveled to places I never would have been able to go to if I wasn’t working there. I lucked out and worked in high end places, including one featured in the European Vogue Cooking magazine (meant something back then). I also worked in some dives.
I learned so much about people and myself. But you can do that a lot of other ways that pay better!
One last thing. With the exception of one or two really tough manual labor tasks I’ve done, no job has seemed hard after my time as a cook.
Make her dethrone Rachel Ray and then do a show about cooking her remains.
If she has good qualifications, she could cook in China in a city like Shanghai if she doesn’t want to get burnt out. They would give good working terms and conditions, they just want a foreign cook on the team. Moreover foreign cooks are very common in big hotels and can usually run the kitchen as the Chinese staff can still be pretty mediocre at Western dishes.
Speaking as a surgical tech: hospital janitorial staff, and sterile processing staff. They are INVISIBLE until something goes wrong, then everyone likes to bitch and point fingers, but they bust their asses constantly to keep us from becoming a giant pathogen cocktail. Hospitals would be fucking disgusting in the scope of like, idk, 2 hours, without those peeps.
Been a little bit since I put one of them in for an award. I think it’s time to flex my keyboard again.
IT in so many ways in so many industries.
At least it pays… usually
Being poor. You pay the bills of the rich.
Poor persons credit card interest pays for the points rich people can easily gain and spend.
I’d imagine the margins on many cheaper products are better than the luxury version. Disney+ comes to mind where they want people to take the cheaper ad version because it earns disney more money.
Hell, the whole point of a credit score is so that poor people pay higher interest rates, allowing for interest rates for the rich to become more competitive.
Health care aide. They get paid a pittance to clean up people who have pooped themselves. They should get 300 dollars an hour and a bottle of tequila per shift.
Tankless water heater installer.
Walmart greeters. They always say ‘thank you’ to you, but have you ever thought to thank them? I dont think so.
Thanks for… thanking me?
Get a real job
Truck Driver. Not many other jobs are gone from home weeks at a time working 70 hrs a week just to get the finger for being too heavy to accelerate like a 2000lbs car
I very much appreciate the work truckers do.
However, 90% of the people who cut me off just to go 10+ miles under the speed limit are truckers.
Like y’all are already going slow, why inconvenience 10 other drivers in the fast lane who are all going to pass you in 30 seconds.
Truck drivers aren’t even allowed to go in the fast lane where I’ve lived.
Does it stop them?
Who cares? Without trucks moving goods, we literally have nothing and society as we know it doesn’t exist.
“They can disregard regulation because what they do is important” is a terrible take
I always wave or nod to truckies. Truckies are the best.
And if one pull to the side so I can pass I flash my indicators at them when I’ve passed to say thank you.
Nurses, or hospital staff in general. Overworked, underpaid and generally unappreciated.
Jizz mopper
Thank you for your service. o7
No thank you
You guys getting paid?
Social worker is pretty high on the list. Most are overworked, underpaid and treated poorly by their management, their clients, or both.
Garbage collector.
I only ever see mine from a distance and never get the chance to say thank you. My mum used to give them a tip at Xmas.
Nobody said cleaners? Cleaners, and rubbish/trash/garbage collectors