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Their intentions simply do not matter. The only thing that matters is their effect on the outside world.

Words are just wind. Deeds not words

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gaslight them back

for example

yes i can speak for your intentions because you literally flat out stated your intentions when you said [insert quote they didnt say]

and then if they deny it just claim they deleted it or even make a fake screenshot

all you need is your audience to believe you instead of them you just have to make them look bad

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The best way is not to interact with them at all. You’re not going to gain anything from responding to them.

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This is the first time I’ve seen someone use DeviantArt to flex

My gut reaction would be “actions still have consequences motherfucker”, but my gut would also be to immediately remove this person from ever interacting with me again.

Sometimes, the results of something you do don’t quite match your intentions. Mistakes happen, miscommunications happen. A genuine person would respond “oh fuck, that is NOT how I meant that”, and apologize. A gaslighter does the above.

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This.

Imagine you’re in a relationship with someone who’s been through so much suffering in the past, that they now hurt/abuse you (doesn’t matter what type of trauma or abuse it is for this example), either as a defence mechanism, or as a control mechanism, or as a preemptive strike type deal.

You have no way of changing/helping them because they do not want to let you in.

Even in this scenario, where we may be able to empathise, the “why” doesn’t matter. What matters is that, at the end of the day, they’re abusing you.

If you ask me, Musk doing the Nazi salute is even more clear cut than this. We all know exactly who Nazis were, are, and will be, what’s behind that one gesture. Even if it were performed by a kid with no context of the world, it’s still a Nazi salute. The intent doesn’t matter, because the meaning has been defined waay before the performer’s intent even comes into play.

And even if he claims that “because he’s a Fascist” (which he is) wasn’t the intent behind it, that should only make him, the Tech Bro of Tech Bros, the man with enough resources to friggin’ buy half the schools, libraries and teachers in the world, look that much more stupid, ignorant, insensitive, immature, and stupid (yes, I said that twice).

Edit: another, personal example would be my reticence to make the peace symbol because it was so heavily co-opted by Nixon. I’m not saying he managed to fully corrupt it, but he did manage to leave an indelible fecal stain on it as I see it.

“I can speak to what’s obviously right in front of me, and so can anybody with eyes in their fucking head.”

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The best thing you can do is just ignore it. Like I’m doing with this thread after this comment. Have a great day!

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