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Again, as I wrote in my blogpost, one of the problems was that Ulanoff conflated fedi and Mastodon. You are not writing this on Mastodon, but you are writing this on fedi. This is something that Ulanoff missed completely.

Anyway, as I said, you are welcome to interpret stuff anyway you like. To me, his piece was just hilariously lazy, conventional to an almost self-parody level “tech journalism”, and that’s what I call him out on in my blogpost.

I am not saying Mastodon-the-software-project has no issues, I am not saying fedi has no issues – I talk about those issues in other places at length. But “Shatner could not find me and ‘toot’ sounds silly therefore this network will not survive” is a take that needs to be pointed at and laughed at when it comes from someone so high up on the tech journalism ladder.


I just find it remarkable that not only the shape of Claude’s logo is what it is, they also went with that particular color for it. Chef’s kiss.


Well, there was a way to say “Mastodon isn’t a viable mass market Twitter replacement and it wouldn’t become that without significant changes.” It’s literally that.

It is also pretty noticeably different than saying “Mastodon won’t survive.”

Not only that, by Ulanoff also compares Mastodon to a social network that did in fact “poof out into thin air”, Peach.

You may of course do all sorts of gymnastics when interpreting his piece, but I take what he said at face value. And the fact that he responded to my thread on fedi and admitted he was wrong (kudos for doing that, by the way!) seems to confirm my face-value reading was closer to his intended message when the piece was published.


Why do AI company logos look like buttholes?
So, which butthole did you pull your code, copy, or image from today? 🙂
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Yeah. Thankfully, Fediverse is a bunch of independent projects. There are Pleroma, different Misskey forks, Lemmy, kbin, Pixelfed, Loops, GoToSocial, and dozens more.

Mastodon is still probably the biggest, user-count-wise, but if Mastodon does a real stupid, there’s going to be a fork that takes over the mindshare and the instances. This happened with OpenOffice → LibreOffice when the former got taken over by Oracle; this happened with XFree86 → X.org. This happened with ownCloud → Nextcloud.

And there are projects like FediPact, explicitly opposed to having anything to do with Meta on an instance level.


Yup. Up until roughly the times of early Twitter, federated, decentralized communication systems were the obvious norm to any engineer designing one.

Twitter was even meant to be federated and decentralized. I had interviewed one of their first engineers (this piece is about BlueSky, and in Polish; the Twitter thing is important background), who was there and working on that in the very early days. They had a proof of concept. But then the VCs got involved and the decision was that it would be harder to make money on a decentralized service. Rest is history.


Facebook is trying with Threads. Threads is directly targeting Fedi. Thankfully, it does not seem to be working the way Meta wanted it to work – that is, to start sucking people in from fedi due to sheer size and presumably better UI. Turns out people who had moved to fedi really hate Meta, who’da thunk it.


Yup, I really appreciate he did reply. Gotta say that it did improve my opinion of him.





Meanwhile, Threadiverse is on the verge of reaching 100k active monthly accounts.

Of course, the numbers are incomparable. But this whole thing made Threadiverse into a viable space for a lot of people. Reddit app developers are starting to develop apps for Lemmy/Kbin. Dozens of new instances got set up. The whole space is bigger, more resilient, and leaps and bounds more vibrant than it was in May and before (I’ve been here for years).

A lot of people will come back to Reddit. But a lot of people will also remain here. And this space will be there the next time Reddit craps the bed, better prepared to take the influx.


Looks like KBin has an edge over Lemmy now in terms of monthly active users. It's obviously a pretty silly thing, and is not in any way indicative of which project is "better" or more "long-term viable" or anything — instances of both federate with one another, and with the rest of fedi, so it's all one happy family. That said, it's notable. KBin is a relative newcomer to the "Reddit-like fedi instance" game, and also does not have the [tankie baggage](https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781). Anyway, the more, the merrier! KBin: https://the-federation.info/platform/184 Lemmy: https://the-federation.info/platform/73 Discussion on fedi: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110527049024028986
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Mastodon monoculture problem
> Recent moves by Eugen Rochko (known as Gargron on fedi), the CEO of Mastodon-the-non-profit and lead developer of Mastodon-the-software, got some people worried about the outsized influence Mastodon (the software project and the non-profit) has on the rest of the Fediverse. > Good. We should be worried. > Mastodon-the-software is used by far by the most people on fedi. The biggest instance, mastodon.social, is home to over 200.000 active accounts as of this writing. This is roughly 1/10th of the whole Fediverse, on a single instance. Worse, Mastodon-the-software is often identified as the whole social network, obscuring the fact that Fediverse is a much broader system comprised of a much more diverse software. > This has poor consequences now, and it might have worse consequences later. What also really bothers me is that I have seen some of this before. I go on to dive a bit into the history of StatusNet (the software), OStatus (the protocol), and `identi.ca` (the biggest instance) on a decentralized social network "grandparent" of the Fediverse. And draw an analogy to show why `mastodon.social`'s size, and Mastodon-the-software-project's influence on broader fedi is a serious risk we need to do something about.
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imo it is the ActivityPub world that is cosplaying decentralization.

ActivityPub has a over 20k different independent instances, mostly federating with one another. BlueSky has one, and if you try to set up an independent one, it won’t federate.

I mean, I’d laugh, but it’s not even funny.

BlueSky also already has a system for flagging different categories of sensitive content, much like Mastodon’s CWs.

You are confusing content warnings (not exposing others to potentially triggering content you post) with moderation (making it hard to harass users). These are two very different things.


BlueSky is cosplaying decentralization
> Almost exactly six months after Twitter got taken over by a petulant edge lord, people seem to be done with grieving the communities this disrupted and connections they lost, and are ready, eager even, to jump head-first into another toxic relationship. This time with BlueSky.
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