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Only 200? Step up your game. Gramps didn’t sub $5.99 / month OF out of his retirement funds for nothing.


Your have this insane idea that the whole country is one big “business”.

Your words, not mine. But businesses tend to want to make money, cut costs and protect their investments (surprise), so you do the math.

Facebook is a business that doesn’t give a single shit about real estate, because they’re not in the business of real estate, and yet they’re bringing their workers back to the office.

I don’t 100% agree, and for every Facebook there is a Microsoft.

But this discussion isn’t going anywhere, mostly about you blowing steam and probably more interesting to you than it is to me, so let’s just agree to disagree.


No but those industries directly impact a wide variety of other industries. You don’t see employers demanding their employees drive around in circles to burn more gas because oil prices dip.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

What other poster?

https://lemmy.myserv.one/comment/1326851

WTF is “remote work culture”? Why does Amazon give a shit about what Target is doing?

See the linked post above.

Why would Facebook give a shit about how much money the government makes from property taxes?

Governments give a shit in this case. Who said anything about Facebook?

Occam’s Razor simple explanation of employees are just more productive in the workplace…

It doesn’t need to be a conspiracy. Business by definition does what they need to do to reduce cost, it’s in their DNA. In fact I posit via Occam’s Razor that the simplest explanation for the back-to-work push is it protects government, business and investors loss from their investments / revenue streams. That’s it, just follow the money. It’s not rocket surgery.

Your position that in-person workstyle is more productive largely depends on the type of job and the company culture. It’s not an one-size-fits-all solution and certainly isn’t “simple”.


What does the absolute number of businesses in an industry have to do with anything? Most companies in the world are not tech or even oil and gas either and you can’t deny the impact of these industries.

What matters is the amount of money and influence in the industry, and in the case of commercial real estate in the US, the market size is in the trillions.

And like another poster said it’s not just real estate either. Sectors like retail, services, transportation are also impacted by remote work culture, not to mention government revenue streams like property taxes.


Remote work doesn’t work for everyone and that’s always been the case. But it’s nowhere near the boogeyman that the media is currently making it out to be.


Yes? I’m not understanding your point. What I’m saying is the anti-remote work push is likely due to the influence of the investors in said properties and companies.


I mean…maybe if you work for a real estate company?

That’s not the only real-estate game in the business… Think owners and landlords of the building who used to make a killing leasing these commercial spaces out. If remote work continues, there is no incentive for companies / tenants to renew their lease, meaning less income for landlords and increasing risk that they will default on their loans. A lot of people are invested in that space and would love to see the gravy train continue, or at least not crash and burn. Hence the propaganda push about how crappy remote work is, an attempt to drive people back.


people are more productive in the office with more oversight and build relationships with their coworkers that help them to do their jobs better.

Not true for all types of employees. There are job functions that work great or even better remote. Your scenario also depends on if the employer has a good office environment and truth be told a lot don’t (many embraced the “open-concept” which does increase communication but also the noise-to-signal ratio).

The war on remote work likely has nothing to do with productivity but all about preserving the commercial real-estate market (and the auxillary businesses) and stop them from crashing. A lot of influential people invested in that industry.


Welcome to the Fediverse and all, but some things (like that thread train) are okay to stay with Reddit, just my personal opinion.



Just called one out recently. I agree everyone should be vigilant, but I also recognize what OP is saying reflects my experience (at least the toxicity part).


I actually agree with OP. Maybe DDOS-wise it’s very instance-specific but in terms of toxicity, it’s very apparent across federated content. I mean, there are some pretty bad behaviors on lemmy.world communities already.