On my Samsung there is an accessibility button at the far right of the navigation bar. You can configure this to wake up Bitwarden and make it available to autofill (long press). Once I set that up I haven’t had any issues with autofill.

You can pull down in the Android app to refresh, so that solves the problem in your link.

I’ve not noticed any issues with Bitwarden on Android in the last 2 years of using it - what was happening for you?

Currently BW seems like a bulletproof solution, but it’s good to have options.

With Proton Unlimited, you also get stuff like per-site aliases using SimpleLogin, Proton VPN, Proton Drive, Proton Calendar and Proton Pass. But if I’m being honest, only the Mail and VPN are truly complete products.

SimpleLogin is fantastic with a custom domain. Game changer for signing up to websites, especially if you use Bitwarden because they integrate seamlessly. I have paid Proton so the premium version is included for free. Not sure how the free version compares.

and I don’t actually think bitcoin is anonymous

You can pay with XMR:

I definitely agree with you though, it is a negative for Kagi. It would be nice if they let you pay direct via crypto or other methods.

If I managed to untrain myself from this and start using tools for their core-purpose, the limits of Kagi might indeed be more than enough. But currently I am too lazy for such a deep change in my daily workflows.

Exactly - exactly my problem. And why I’m probably going to reluctantly upgrade to the $25/mo unlimited. It just irks me that I feel like I’m getting ripped off :P

Imagine installing and opening a separate units conversions app just to find something that used to be an instant search away.

Sure, but the perceived value for my money. Hence why I appreciated the “search is the most important thing I use the internet for” comment.

Me too. That’s probably the easiest comparison and one of the reasons I struggle with Kagi’s pricing. I get Proton’s highest paid plan for less cost… and that includes all their products, mail, VPN, 3TB cloud storage, and clearly doesn’t sell any of my data since they don’t have any access to it. Not to mention that my paid plan subsidises free users. (Assuming I upgrade to Kagi Unlimited which it definitely looks like I will be.)

I use their email aliases function a lot. So you can one-click generate an email to use when you sign up on a service and when you don’t use that service anymore, delete the email address.

I do the same thing, but with a catch-all email. Only started doing that this year and it makes such a huge difference when signing up for services!

(I know that Proton has a similar one-click service, but I worry about some scenario 10 years in the future where they decide to shut it down and I have to migrate all my logins.)

To me, search is the most important thing I use the internet for

I like this framing. That might help me come to terms with their cost 👍

I couldn’t find anything about your claim that conversion would cost extra, not on the pricing page and not in the FAQ section. I also did a few conversation searches and there was no info about additional price. Can you link to where it says that?

Just look at your billing page and do a few of those searches. You will see they count as a paid search - nothing special you need to look for.

I’m not saying they charge extra for them, just that they charge for them like other searches. Doing math in the address bar is so second-nature to me now, and it seems a bit silly for Kagi to charge me for working out what 2 * 8 is.

Kagi has been very transparent about the reason for the costs - it’s what they need to charge to not lose money, since they don’t sell your user data or track you.

I’ve seen their posts on this, but the question is how accurate that data is. 80 searches costing Kagi $1 doesn’t intuitively feel reasonable, but perhaps it is the truth. Google’s search API is $1 per 200 queries, and you would assume they make a profit at that pricing: https://developers.google.com/custom-search/v1/overview#pricing

Of all the subscriptions I have, this one seems like the least value for money for me personally, when I can get for example 5TB of cloud storage for less cost.

It’s not that I’m comparing no-search to search, it’s that I’m comparing the incremental improvement from DDG to Kagi, and considering whether that improvement is worth $10 or $25 a month.

I also don’t love the hard ID they have on you for payment

What’s the hard ID? You can use a burner email and a pre-paid/anonymous Visa card without any issues.

Here’s some prepaid Visa cards you can buy with bitcoin (I have successfully used this site): https://www.coinsbee.com/en/payment-cards-bitcoin

I have the $10/mo account but I’ll disagree with @mrmanager@lemmy.today that it’s worth the money.

Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t go back to Google/DDG, but while I can afford Kagi’s monthly cost I don’t believe that everyone can, nor do I think it’s an appropriate cost for a search engine.

I feel like I am an average search user, and I easily burn through 1000 searches a month. I’ll possibly be upgrading to the $25/mo unlimited account.

If you’re used to doing conversion searches like “100 USD in EUR”, or “2.5g in oz”, or even “20 * 12%” - you get charged for each of those. That doesn’t seem so reasonable to me.

I need an engine where if I put something in quotes it appears on the site, visible to the human eye

I can confirm this works on Kagi: