I strongly encourage this discussion, because at the end it’s up to the users - the community - to decide how to use those tools. I think that we have an opportunity here to embrace new custom, and leave what was on reddit on reddit.

but I would argue that the quality argument is flawed in my opinion. upvote and downvote are more used as agreement / disagreement markers.

so if you agree with content, I can understand that you just want to use the upvote (who really is a favorite here in the fediverse) to let the poster know that their content had a positive impact on yourself. I’m cool with that and it’s also good to avoid “+1” or “^^^^this” comments. But maybe it shouldn’t be displayed (every upvote downvote boosts are public in the fediverse, anyone can have access to this info it’s how ActivityPub works for now, just go to more>activity). Favorites are not that public on other platform, I guess only people from the same server are seeing it, or people you follow, I’m not sure about that.

but the downvote mechanism, who could imply a disagreement, is problematic to me. Because we should feel free to specify why we are in a disagreement. They can be so much reason for that and only a conversation, an exchange of thought can help us understand each other.

a simple click on the downvote button is more like a “shut up” for me. Not a really great way to express ourself, to express disagreement. And it’s also too healthy in my opinion.

So yes the strongest issue with this mechanism is how it contribute to encourage a single discourse, a single point of view and tend to discourage users with other point of view to engage. It’s really problematic for me.

upvote or downvote are not good indicator of the quality of a post. a controversial point of view can be of quality but still being downvoted.

I guess if you enable it on your device you are safe, but if your content is on another device that doesn’t enable it (it’s an opt in option), your content will be available.

ok thanks for the precision

you could to type m/community@lemmy.instance after your kbin instance domain.

like to open technology@beehaw.org

https://kbin.social/m/technology@beehaw.org

edit : it seems that it doesn’t work if the community is not federated yet.

kbin is another platform federated with lemmy and other platform from the fediverse. not the same project than lemmy.

kbin.pub
join-lemmy.org

and everything is still being developed. the fediverse experience is going to be better and better.

I think that it’s important for users to know where they are.

and I think that it’s critical to fight technological illiteracy, raise awareness about how it works, who’s developing it, who’s paying for it. it doesn’t need to be complex, but the main concept need to be explained, and thus let users be actors of their digital life.

in my opinion it’s important to take any opportunity to do so.

the online courses from the totem project about digital security and privacy are very well done and easy to follow, if anyone is interested:
https://totem-project.org

I don’t really agree with this because the fediverse is not only interconnected by a technology (ActivityPub) but also by some shared values, like inclusivity and kindness to each other.

so for me it’s important to agree to embrace those values if you want to be part of it. it’s not just a replacement for other platforms. users that experienced the twitter migration know what I’m talking about.

if an instance becomes toxic, il will simply be de-federated and continue to live on its on , on a secular island (a good example of this is thruth.social, who is not accessible from mastodon.social for obvious reasons). I really don’t want this to happen to here.

so please let’s keep what was on reddit on reddit and build something new here.

and the fediverse is also about value of inclusivity. it goes beyond a technological ideal.

Calckey is a great microblogging app from the fediverse. It’s compatible with activity pub, you can even import your mastodon account.