This uncontrolled rush killed magazines. For example /m/hardware. I wanted to start something, but it was already reserved by someone who never posted anything in a month, not a post, not a comment anywhere. There is no link to other mags on the page, no rules, no nothing.
I messaged the guy to get the magazine back but never got any answer.
What’s so bad about giving AI models something to learn on?
From a user point of view? A lot. So far the AI has made itself the champion of the creation of fake. Fake news, fake pictures, fake videos, fake history, fake identity. Do you think that the AI will be used for your own good? Do you think that your private data are farmed for you own good? I don’t.
I posted an example about fake identities and fake posters on Twitter. This is the end goal. This is where the money generated by the AI will come from.
That way you could detect and address rogue scrubbers while still working with LLM creators who are open to an honest training integration. And if your company can’t really detect the difference between users and LLM crawlers after implementing something like this, well, then those crawlers don’t really affect the company as much as the CEOs would like to pretend.
Twitter and Reddit probably want to be their own LLM creators. They don’t want to leave this market to another LLM. Also it doesn’t take a lot of API calls to generate the content that will astroturf your product.
Anyway the cat is out of the bag and this data will be harvested. The brands will astroturf their products using AI processes. People are not stupid and will realize the trick played on them. We are probably heading toward platforms using full authenticated access.
For reddit and twitter it’s also induced by the threat of AI. Twitter and reddit host a lot of content, organized, sorted, coherent. It’s invaluable for training an AI and these companies don’t want to let it go for free. They want control over it, therefore they are making it very hard for AI companies to farm their content. The fact that it’s happening now is because AI companies are probably rushing to copy as much data as possible before laws are voted to put a limit over them.
It will be the same for the fediverse, our content will be scanned by AI’s. Our content is freely visible, organized, sorted and scored. We should be careful about that. If you are not a professional publisher or a public person then you should probably think about rotating your username as often as possible.
edit: But also, with the rise of tiktok, a lot of countries are now suspicious about the soft power of those apps, and are ready to legislate against them. The EU already did, they did vote fines against them and are regularly getting money out of them. The taboo is gone, you can attack those companies, it works. They were supposed to be out of reach, but they are not.
Also there is no genius in Twitter, as far as I know they have no patent over anything. If someone manages to become more popular than them on the same principle then twitter is done. Gravity will do the rest and users will move to a different platform. People are using it because people are using it. So the model is fragile and the value is questionable.
Are you sure that you are answering to the right post or are you just jumping on the bandwagon of another post? You address nothing of what I mentioned about the federation system and the solution I’ve given.
I don’t think you quite realize how much craziness is in the world at large. There are have been instances of pizzagate levels of craziness in my home country, as well as in the other countries whose news I follow.
Give some example which show the magnitude of the pizzagate. I’m not talking about a follower of qanon making noise for views, I’m talking about the pizzagate with everything that it includes.
You also don’t seem to grasp how discussions on the Internet work. People will post about things that interest them. Telling people not to post things that are of interest to them because you don’t like it is counterintuitive and borderline offensive.
I thought that you were serious for a moment, I was wrong. Or you answered to the wrong post.
The US crowd is a specific crowd. Only in the US could the pizzagate be a thing. Don’t equate the USA as “another country but bigger”. The weaponization of the american media is perfectly visible and understood and honestly I expected better from people who left a platform like reddit. I was wrong. Only a small minority was able to produce interesting conversations before Jim interrupted the finer things club.
Also just because you are american doesn’t mean that you have to post about american politics. There is a whole world out there and american would be well inspired to look at what is happening beyond the ocean. I was talking about https://ground.news a few minutes ago. Great tool to find foreign stories in english from all around the globe.
The instances of the fediverse are necessarily smaller than the reddit server, therefore you will have to search for remote communities on specialized servers. Or start your own.
If meditation concerns 0.1% of the population, then you will need 10000 accounts for each 10 meditation members, that would be 40 people on kbin. So you have to search on different instances, and maybe move to a different federation. Your main instance should be located where you live and then you search elsewhere for your niche interests.
If we want the fediverse to replace Reddit then either
We don’t want the fediverse to replace reddit. Specially in term of popularity. What made reddit collapse in quality is the amount of people on the platform. The 3rd party app thing was only a trigger for many people. Many others have seen the quality of the content of reddit nosedive with time. The festival of memes and one liners has been described again and again. We didn’t have this during those few weeks here. We will have it if the platform becomes too popular. How could it be otherwise? How can you picture a popular platform without the popular content? The platform filtering through some hurdles is a good thing.
Even now you can already see the bad behavior of redditor being reflected in the content. And it’s only starting.
People have to come out of interest. Otherwise your platform will be filled with 1-click meme posters, and that’s probably not what you want.
I agree that a lot of politicized content is shit. Yesterday I checked reddit and an article was titled ‘ultra-rich reminded of pitchforks if they don’t share’ or some asinine bullshit. I would enjoy not having this relentless ragebait spam here.
@news is like 50% american political news. The newcomers are reproducing what they did on reddit. It’s news material to them.
I do however think, that I can just block them right?
You cannot block the content they upvote. You can block a magazine, but why would you block @news? Why should it be the de facto american political channel? Also the content induces a type of comment. If the frontpage is made of rageclick then subscribers will be rageclick consumers.
So we have reenacted the reddit process. Except we did it way faster.
I think you are right to caution but maybe a little over the top.
It’s only the beginning, the worse is yet to come as today is the last day for apollo and co.
These instances are like pirate ships pursuing us.
But they don’t write from their original instance name… nonono, I’m sure that they are popping up here with a fresh duplicate account:
“Hello, let me explain some politics to you, but first let me nuke your reputation with a few multi accounts”.
And you end up discussing with a whooping 5 downvotes as a starter. It gives the tone for the other people who want to discuss and see you as “this guy”.
What happened to antiwork was fantastic. It was created by someone who was lazy and did not wanted to work. Then it got co-opted by people who wanted to work. Finally he was kicked as a mod for sticking to the name and spirit of his sub. He had his cosy sub and he was invaded by workers.
How can you seriously claim to be pro-work but follow the banner of someone who claimed long ago to be antiwork? Why were they all shocked? Just read the sign, antiwork, it’s the name!! Don’t you listen to the people you chose to follow?
watches the TV –> “Ho no, our leader is antiwork!”
Just create your own thing.
The waiting list is on a google page?!
It’s 3 years old
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