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Heard of Lemmy first.
also it has way more clients and instances than kbin
Rust > php
It definitely uses a lot less resources with rust. The idea of using PHP for a decentralized piece of software gives me a cold chill
Rust is not necessarily better than php. I think certain things lend themselves more to rust and others to php though. Again, the more choices we with which to implement solutions, the better. Rust is better suited to decentralized services because of the additional demands placed on speed. Rust, being a compiled language, will naturally excel at that. PHP on the other hand does really well for centralized services and it is very easy to maintain and implement new features in. One of my favorite ERP platforms, ERPnext, makes use of php and does it well. Also, it depends on the skill of the coder. You can have a perfectly excellent language like go or rust and still have a poor piece of software.
This, and preferring the UI of Lemmy’s web app.
This is gonna be a controversial take, but to be honest when PHP first started out, it’s killer feature was that it was a hypertext preprocessor. PHP is a Hypertext Preprocessor was the original recursive acronym (that was all the rage in the 90’s and early 2000’s). Arguably that feature also encouraged terrible coding practices, but I digress.
Nowadays PHP is a dime in a dozen managed, dual-personality OOP/procedural hybrid interpreted language.
So yeah, if I were to start a new project today, I would not choose PHP.
It looks like they’re a good bit older than PHP, according to Wikipedia.
As for the rest, I’d agree that new projects would be better served to used something other than PHP.
App support
exactly. lemmy has an app. kbin not (still like the wild west yet)
It has even a dozen https://lemmyapps.netlify.app/
What’s the fetish with apps?
Apps don’t even have tabs.
I always choose to use mobile sites over apps, too. Privacy is better. You can save images, open multiple tabs, refresh pages and use bookmarks. I used to use old.reddit for years on my phone so the lemmy interface is a big step up and i think it’s fine as it is. Kbin is not bad on mobile either.
I think because most mobile web browsers are terrible. I’ve not looked into them at all, but the default ones are always so bad.
Funnily enough, I don’t care too much about apps because kbin’s mobile web version (and, by extension, its PWA) is pretty nice as is. But I agree that most mobile websites have terrible UX.
None of the PWAs I try to use on my phone run good. The lemmy and kbin ones in particular are laggy and horrible
Kbin, while really polished, tries to do too many things and not really well either. I found kbin’s calling sub-reddits magazines to be awkward. I also found that their microblogging feature distracted from the primary goal of replacing reddit. I more ascribe to the traditional Unix philosophy of one tool for one job. I like having a separate tool for micro-blogging, one for link aggregation, and another for photos or friends better. The less married we are to one platform and one way of doing things, the better. Choice is always good.
It feels like it does a mixture of everything all at once and they just end up being not very great at all of them
Why do you use Kbin over Lemmy?
Might seem petty, but sometimes purely to support the fediverse not just becoming Lemmy. And I just happened to join it first, at a time where the conversations I encountered there felt more fulfilling and not just a port of reddit speak
Yeah kbin during the blackout was awesome
I like the forum-style posts and #microblogging integration. The local community has also been pleasant to engage with so far. I’ve been running two magazines and lately have been seeing some federated Mastodon posts show up in one of the magazines I run. It’s nice to have an area akin to a daily discussion thread which lets me engage with the different parts of the #fediverse.
Lemmy existed for longer so it had a bigger (dev) community, is more mature and had more and wider 3rd party app support.
App support is the biggest reason. The interface isn’t smooth or intuitive. It’s harder to navigate.
Lemmy has a much wider choice of instances, and extra features like microblogging never really appealed to me.
Kbin also has microblogging.Edit: Reading comprehension failure, please reboot brain.
I’m pretty sure that is his point, the microblogging on kbin was not a draw to make him choose it over lemmy.
lol…same here
The choice of instances is the same as long as they federate.
The choice of communities/magazines are the same as long as they all federate, but if you’re choosing an instance based on interest, location, policies, or other criteria (besides kbin-specific features), there are more Lemmy instances to choose from.
Federation in Kbin is still in beta as far as I know. It seems to work well though.
I use both and while I prefer Kbin’s interface slightly, I will say that my experience with Lemmy is definitely better, the Kbin instance I’m on often has 500 errors on various parts of the site, along with lots of duplicate posts. Overall, I think it’s a toss up, neither one is particularly better than the other, though Lemmy is bigger.
Yep, this is me. Add apps into the equation, and Lemmy has a slight edge.
The site (kbin) never had any content. Maybe it was federation issues or other bugs but often there were zero posts that interested me in a day. Quite a step down from Reddit.
Don’t see the appeal of microblogging, mostly.
I haven’t looked into kbin much because it was described to me as “you can look at Reddit style posts and twitter style microblogs on one place.”
I fucking hate microblogs.
Kbin has virtually no apps, unnecessarily (imo) integrates microblogging, and I prefer Lemmy’s UI. Also, the fact most people who initially chose to Kbin weirdly did so because they disagreed with the lead devs politics?
The instance I wanted to join was Lemmy. That’s pretty much it.
The Lemmy experience has improved immeasurably since the pre-population-boom days, where I saw Kbin as a slightly more attractive option as the UI was more polished at the time. After Lemmy 0.18.2 hit and fixed the issues with the annoying auto-updating timelines, improved the sorting algorithms, and improved database performance I’ve used it exclusively.
The Lemmy software seems to have more people working on the code and things are being addressed and improved rapidly. This extends to more 3rd party app support too. It feels like the better supported platform and that seems like it’ll be the case moving into the future as well.
As a personal note I also don’t like some of the terminology used on the Kbin platform. “Magazine” is a confusing term that seems to have been chosen purely to be different. Sometimes it’s just best to stick to common terms to reduce the complexity and learning curve of a platform.