What do you NOT want to see replicated on kbin? - RedditMigration to the "Threadiverse" - kbin.social
kbin.socialOr the fediverse in general.
I wanted to ask everyone their personal least favorite communities on reddit.
Whic subreddits do you absolutely not (personally of course) want to see recreated as magazines here on kbin, or as fediverse communities in general?
My pet peeve is CMV. I always felt while the idea seemed doable on the surface, the implementation within that particular subreddit with the delta system, the requirement for the top level comments to oppose the OP even if the “view” is an established expert consensus on something like climate change made it impossible to have meaningful conversations.
I haven’t checked if we have a CMV magazine here, but as soon as I see one, I know I’m blocking it.
What is your “instant block” community?
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Pretty much all of the ironic “oh we’re just pretending to be bad people lololol” ironic circlejerk subreddits. Best case scenario, they eventually attract people that don’t recognize it’s ironic, worst case the mask just falls off. PCM is probably the worst of the bunch. Writing fake tweets to mischaracterize political opinions you don’t like is just such a bizarre hobby.
PCM in parts just became “women bad” for younger people lol
Please excuse my ignorance, what’s PCM?
Political Compass Memes and he’s bsing lol. Ironic people bash the hardest on one of the few non-toxic subs where you could at least have a little fun.
Also, “ironic” use of fascist and Nazi tropes, like naming a subreddit “r/pcmasterrace”. Yeeeeaaaaah, no.
American politics seeping into every damn thing. And to top it off, with a clear bias in one direction. I resent having the feeling like there’s an astro-turfing effort going on, even when I agree with whatever stance is being pushed. Reddit is really tainted with that sort of thing.
Hopefully it doesn’t take hold here, or at least stays contained so I can decline subbing to magazines that would pertain. I’d rather not have to swim in the “political party A is evil and political party B is angelic” muck in unrelated magazines.
I said this the other day. Post on Reddit about English something. First comments were about american culture. Had to scroll until I found opinions from the UK.
Everything becomes murica. It’s infuriating. I get reddit is basically America and it’s a large population but so is India or China or Africa. Doesn’t just need to be America all the time.
That’s not just a Reddit thing, it’s an Internet thing.
Americans absolutely dominate the English-speaking Internet.
But then the population of the US is greater than the population of Australia, the UK, New Zealand and Canada combined, twice over.
Murka murka murka, murka?
Funny thing on Reddit there quite literally was an astroturfing campaign paid for by CTR/Shareblue. That’s why r/politics turned into the toxic cesspit it remains today.
In addition to what others have said: The endless, constant, relentless OnlyFans self promotion. I don’t mind NSFW, I don’t mind porn. But by god I lost brain cells each time I read
“I AM SUCH A YOUNG SLUT, OH WOE IS ME, WHERE ARE ALL THE OLDER MEN WHO WOULD WANT ME!?!?!?!?!?”
“COMMENT YOUR AGE IF YOU’D HAVE ME <3”
fixing exclusively to find people with money to reel in. Good lord… I get it, we all have to earn a living and darn if I were a pretty woman in this day and age, I might go down that same route. Yet… Can’t stand it anymore. Same goes for the people engaging with such posts.
OnlyFans in general is a complete fucking racket. Most “creators”, who are young and often vulnerable people, make nothing or next to nothing from subs, even while taking on risks they may not know about or be able to mitigate them if they do know about them.
The world would actually be better without it.
I was told that OnlyFans was started by the mods in some of the NSFW subreddits who used their position of power to recruit the early adopters from the highest upvoted posts in their subs.
Nah whoever told that was bsing you, It was started by Tim Stokely a British businessman.
I wouldn’t like to see hateful and bigotry speech here of any kind
porn.
ever since kbin/lemmy blew up, so has porn… which is fine and all, if it were contained within magazines or instances which don’t appear when i have unticked “show nsfw”, however that’s not the case. Now very often, i see porn, both on the homepage and on the random posts sidebar. It makes browsing kbin in public awkward, and I don’t really come to kbin to see porn in general.
The proper fix for this would be to not only hide posts flagged as nsfw, but also manually maintain a blacklist of pornographic terms, and when “show nsfw” is unticked, posts with those terms should be hidden. As of right now, whether porn shows or doesn’t shows comes down to whether the user’s flagged the post as nsfw.
This shall ameliorate once people start tagging NSFW properly and once people are banned for not respecting it I thing.
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Are you sure you aren’t confusing the fact that communities from federated instances outside of kbin showing up as created by @ernest here on kbin, with him creating them?
Are you telling me he didn’t create them? Only enabled them to be seen via kbin?
kbin by default pulls data from any instance kbin users subscribe to. It’s called “federation”. Unless he manually blocks an instance completely, which is called “defederating”, the communities will show up here on kbin. When a community on an instance outside of kbin gets pulled here, a copy of it is created which syncs with the original on the instance hosting it, and those copies show as created by the site admin, who’s @ernest.
So, he didn’t enable them manually, nor did he create them. His site kbin, pulls data and creates copies of federated communities automatically, and due to the quirks of how federation works, they appear under his name.
It’s so complicated! Thanks for clearing it up for me.
No problem, happy to help!
Also, it’s not as difficult to get used to as it looks at first. There’s quite a bit of concepts to learn, but it’s definitely not endless. In a week or so, especially if you keep engaging and asking questions, you’ll run out of things to learn about the mechanics of the “fediverse”.
Not to sound like a prude, but porn.
There’s no shortage of it and most places have it in some way.
It’d be awesome to be a classier/more serious version of Reddit.
Those things are not mutually exclusive. You can have higher standards for the serious subs we host as well as having porn related subs as well.
Just subscribe to the ones you want and ignore the others.
This sounds like something the fediverse should be able to solve easily. For people who don’t want to be anywhere near porn, you can start a fediverse site and just not aggregate porn, and then like-minded people can go there, and nobody has to be cut off from everybody else just because of differences of opinion about porn.
r/PublicFreakout’s constant unrestrained 'isms, especially towards trans, women, and African descended. I only was subbed for the occassional interesting post and to call out the bs for those who couldn’t see it.
r/JustUnsubbed’s (iirc) noticeable political shift towards (i’mma say it; cover your eyes, children!) the Right after the recent situation with the game that shall not be named and she who shall not be named. Also, see above.
People shitting on and lying about subs specifically made for marginalized groups. e.g.: When r/BlackPeopleTwitter was blessed by Black Jesus with his “Country Club Thread” flair, people elsewhere started calling them racist and supported their claims by over exaggerating the filtration system as “only Blacks allowed” when there was a whole-ass stickied post explaining that people just needed to claim to be Black, BIPOC, or an Ally and prove it by whatever means the mods dictated. My Afro-ass asked if I could just get the Ally userflair and was told (privately and kindly) that, and I’m going off memory here, “Just like we don’t allow Blackface we don’t allow Whiteface.” 🤷🏿♂️
Could probably go on, but I’m busy. ✌🏿
Politics… Any politics. I like news to be informed. But those subreddits became echo chambers and spewed hate one direction or another.
I understand what you’re saying. However, echo chambers aside, I found reddit very useful for political discourse. Even for subjects that had a hive mind response, there were often a few comments that presented the other side in a very well thought out way, with details and citations which would give some folks a reason to rethink their knee-jerk response.
In addition, one of the biggest problems in the US is that lack of political engagement by younger folks. So having those news articles and discussions on a popular forum gives them that visibility into the world of governance and allows them to both develop a desire to vote for change as well as having better knowledge of the issues and how different political figures have acted and what they really stand for.
So I welcome that discourse and having political subs.
This is a great point and a great thought. Having political discourses is important and accepting opinions from all angles without getting agitated.
What I saw in the all of the political subreddits were largely conformation to one side of an argument or another without real exchange, and if there ever was a contrary opinion, most of which were hateful themselves, and if they weren’t, they were downvoted or banned.
Tin foil hat on for a second, I think this is due to how society is, as was mentioned above, and I think it’s also somewhat led by various political groups to get to a hateful conclusion to galvanize supporters on such a big platform.
Politics in general has devolved into one-dimensional hate-slinging and I guess, I miss when Reddit was first starting out and there were more of those conversations, without the anger behind them. If we can’t have civil discourse in our communities, and opinions are only presented as wholly-good or wholly evil, is there benefit to having those conversations?
These are tough questions. Like I said, you make excellent points, and maybe the answer isn’t cut it all off. But I can’t think of a way to foster the type of community you describe in our society without heavy moderation against anger and hate.
You’re absolutely right that a good politics sub (I don’t think I’ll ever get used to the term “magazine”, but “sub” is nicely generic) requires good moderation.
But if kbin largely consists of reddit’s most active users and moderators - the ones who care about the community as well as principles and values, then I think we have an excellent start.
I hear you, but politics are literally unavoidable. Also, for some of us, especially members of minority groups conservatives have it out for right now, literally just existing openly in a space will sometimes have folks crying politics.
I understand the freedom and acceptance that you’re wanting. And I think having those communities to help causes are important. So like was mentioned above, maybe the answer is not cutting it off, but fostering civil discourse to keep the hatred out for one side or another?
I guess the root of the problem is demonizing. For instance, I would caution against what you consider “conservative” and who is really coming after your rights. That mentality again, is supporting the belief that each side is morally monochromatic. If you want to substitute that with the Republican Party, I dont think that’s inaccurate. But there are many who hold “conservative” views fiscally or in other areas that have no issue with supporting minority rights and actively champion those causes.
In my opinion, the greatest lie that the powers-that-be have performed this century, is that one side has all the right answers and you have to be on one side of the fence or the other. I dont think either political party are working for the benefit of their constituents and I think we as a people need to come together to find real solutions, instead of being fed our opinions by those political machines and blindly joining their ranks. There aren’t 2 sides to any issue, nor are there only 2 options for solutions. There are always more to be considered.
I think replying to every single point you made would be way off topic, so I’m not going to.
What I will respond to is your very first comment. The far right, worldwide (not just republicans) is practically frothing at the mouth about trans people lately. Their rhetoric is borderline genocidal, with open calls to “exterminate transgenderism”. No civil discussion can be had when one of the sides is literally out for blood.
There are many issues that you can take many perfectly reasonable differing opinions on, and have a civil discussion over, but this isn’t one of them.
There was a definite change in the way discourse was had in r/politics, r/news, among others over the years. But I would say that’s just a societal thing as of late.
Unfortunately, I do believe it’ll happen here eventually.
There was a huge astroturfing campaign carried out by CTR/ShareBlue during the 2016 US election cycle. Someone even exposed this and was permabanned like 2 days later.
I think in many ways the repetition of posts and worse replies. I know there was a bit of a hive mind going on, and in some ways it could be funny and a force for good, but I’m enjoying not reading the same set top comments to things!
I hope to never hear “I also choose this guy’s dead wife” unironically again
Hah, yeah I’ve got to wonder how many times I read that. Someone else reminded me of the amount of times I’d read red flag on reddit as well. Hopefully we can build a whole new community here, a fresh start!
I don’t think I’ve heard the dead guy version but I have heard the “I choose this guy’s wife” already.
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Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Even when there’s a specific prompt to send a private thank you message that gets sent to you via PM when you get the message telling you someone gilded you…it’s like nope, gotta make an edit instead!
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awww really, I had some truly loved bots, especially on certain fandom subreddits, e.g. Brandon Sanderson subs (won’t say the name cos it’s a spoiler). And /u/gifendor or whatever it was called that showed you the last frame of a gif was a fantastic service. I liked !RemindMe too.
I fully agree some of them were a problem, but imo this is a “baby with the bathwater” situation
They are probably talking about LLM comments that tried to appear human to get upvotes and then get sold on to advertisers/scammers, not Video-download-bot or Palpatine-bot.
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Chuds. I know they’re inevitable on any platform but my goodness we could do without their vile hatred. Any of the incel subs must stay gone. Also, cryptocurrency.
The irony of bashing a decentralized platform… while literally on a decentralized platform.
FTX and Binance are just about the farthest away from decentralized. It’s in the hands of big money now.
Ahh yes, FTX and Binance = crypto.
It’s a sad fact that they hold like 60% of all capital in the space. The hiccups of big tokens like Bitcoin and Ethereum add such a high overhead cost to transactions. The average user (and their dollars) must enter through these platforms or else get fleeced by the infinite scams out there.
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Cryptocurrency is a scam. It may be decentralized and open-source, but it’s still a scam. I don’t like scams.
It’s real funny seeing the left flip from the largest crypto advocates to the biggest detractors just from a single lie. I remember wayyy back on the days of Google+ one of the largest and most cancerous leftists on the platform was the largest crypto advocate. I bet he smashed his rig lol.
Crypto advocates always were libertarians. “The left” as a collective ideology were always against crypto since its inception.
You sound like you are deluded, don’t know what you’re talking about or both. I’ll go with both.
Funny because I could have sworn that ackshully the left are the real libertarians and libleft is the only legitimate form of libertarianism. So are you saying that libleft doesn’t exist, because in that case I would agree.
Being pedantic won’t save you here.
Everyone knows what I mean when I say libertarians.
If there was ever one political ideology generalized to being crypto advocates, it was “the US version” of libertarians, aka right leaning anarcho-capitalist types.
“The left” never advocated for crypto. There were (again US style) liberals here and there who liked the idea, and a lot of people like to equate them with leftists for some reason even though they are center right, but I digress.
The “true libertarians” as you said, also never advocated for crypto. Lib-left, never advocated for crypto. If I have to say it again: the left, in the original, global definition of the left, never advocated for crypto.
You can take the Redditor off of Reddit, but you cannot take the Reddit out of the Redditor. Holy fuck the arrogance, you should go back to Reddit.
You literally used spongetext. Pot-kettle much?
Feeling negative/angry after spending 5 minutes on the front page.
Edit: OMG thanks for the gold kind stranger!!! This is my top upvoted post now!!!
Powermods automatically banning users based on where they post / comment.
This is partially covered here by public modlogs. The previous Reddit Powermods at least won’t touch Kbin with this in place; Bardfinn even tried to claim public modlogs would violate the ADA. That’s not to say other powermods who don’t care about the public logs wouldn’t come into play.
Calling a community [x]Porn that’s just SFW high-quality photos of something (eg EarthPorn, RoomPorn, etc). Leave that naming convention in the 2010s.
EarthPorn was a great place, but BeautifulPlaces really would’ve been the better name.
/u/the_donald or any communities that promote hate against any collective.
Both of us can be disappointed together. I noticed it when I was looking for more mags earlier this morning.
So FDS would be included in that?