Sounds like some made-up bullshit to me. Letâs throw a flag on this motherfucker and stop the game for a review.
EDIT: Even if itâs a thing, how can it have the superpower of closing entire government agencies, opening new ones that supersede national security laws, and nationalizing a voting system that resides in the states?
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Like both legislative statutes and the regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review and may be overturned if the orders lack support by statute or the Constitution. Some policy initiatives require approval by the legislative branch, but executive orders have significant influence over the internal affairs of government, deciding how and to what degree legislation will be enforced, dealing with emergencies, waging wars, and in general fine-tuning policy choices in the implementation of broad statutes.
Basis in the United States Constitution
The United States Constitution does not have a provision that explicitly permits the use of executive orders. Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution simply states: âThe executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.â Sections 2 and 3 describe the various powers and duties of the president, including âHe shall take care that the Laws be faithfully executedâ.
The U.S. Supreme Court has held that all executive orders from the president of the United States must be supported by the Constitution, whether from a clause granting specific power, or by Congress delegating such to the executive branch. Specifically, such orders must be rooted in Article II of the US Constitution or enacted by the Congress in statutes. Attempts to block such orders have been successful at times, when such orders either exceeded the authority of the president or could be better handled through legislation.
So yeah there is a legal basis
Yeah, thatâs not what weâre seeing here.
Sure as shootinâ, this is whatâs happening. Letâs get blocking. Of course, thereâs the problem of a rogue presidency that doesnât obey court orders.
I think thereâs another issue in that the agencies who receive the executive order are essentially obliged to act as if they are legally binding until theyâre shot down in court. This means thereâs a sort of time gap where an executive order can enact an essentially permanent change (e.g. delete a bunch of info, bomb something, etc.) and the court has no way to get it reversed by the time they rule on it.
Surely couldnât they do the opposite, ie. refuse to act and wait to be taken to court (if they think theyâd win)? Obviously futile if the court has been captured though
Potentially with experienced staff members they might try to call its bluff but then it seems like theyâve also been uprooting experienced personnel, making everyone unstable, replacing them with Trumper patsies etc. which probably minimises this kind of pushback.
The problem arises when the person giving those orders authority hears âBy order of the kingâ instead of âby directive of the presidentâ.
The US doesnât want a king, it was a big deal here about 250 years ago. Looking like itâs gonna be a big reminder for the 250 anniversary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
Instead of Wikipediaing for people too lazy to do it themselves, I just downvote their question and move on.
Did you move on though?
Ok!
Instead of commenting about wikipeading on a wikipediaing comment. Just move on
âDepartmentsâ such as the Department of Energy, the Department of Transportation, the State Department etc. are under the umbrella of the Executive Branch. Each Department has a Secretary. Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Urban Development etc. The Secretaries act as liasons for their respective department and report directly to the Chief Executive (president). Given the president is Chief Executive he can give orders to the Departments which âthey have to followâ provided they are not illegal or are beyond the departmentâs budget. These issues, in principle, would be handled by the Judicial and Legislative branches respectively.
All that said, since the president is âin chargeâ of the Departments he can order them to do whatever he wants in addition. Typically, the president âtellsâ the Departments what he âwantsâ done and they will address that issue. An Executive Order is more forceful.
From a constitutional perspective, the problem with Executive Orders and Departments is that they arenât addressed at all. Constitution establishes the existance of the branches of goverment and lays out general rules, but it doesnât have anything to say about the structure of the executive branch or even how many judges are on the Supreme Court.
The only way executive orders can be addressed is by law. The legislative branch would need to write amd pass it with 2/3 majority vote to bypass a certain presidential veto.
Itâs another case of our government letting vulnerable, dangerous shit just sit there (like abortion legality based on a supreme Court ruling rather than a law), until someone did something exploiting that vulnerability and then itâs all âOH NO! WHO COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED?â
Well mf, that was your job. Not mine. Yours.