A UK Member of Parliament recently suggested that there should be a Government minister for men which would presumably do similar things to the existsing minister for Women.
This has thrown up a series of heated discussions on social media about whether this is part of the âbacklashâ against feminsm, or whether there is a legitimate need for wider support of menâs issues.
As a man who believes that there are legitimate issues disproportionately affecting men which should be addressed, what I really want help in understanding is the opinion that men donât need any targetted support.
I donât want to start a big argument, but I do want to understand this perspective, because I have struggled to understand it before and I donât like feeling like Iâm missing something.
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The official position is Minister for Women and Equalities.
And the easy answer to this Tory troll is that (middle-class, white) men already dominate political, economic and social life. Everything is filtered through the eyes of people like them, they donât need a special platform to get their viewpoint across.
But, this is a lot like March 8th (International Womenâs Day) being full of plaintive cries of âwhy isnât there an International Menâs Day?â. There is an International Menâs Day and it is a very good thing. It makes sense in a way that âwhy isnât there a white history month?â does not.
There are many points of similarity and difference between the various forms of prejudice. And one of the things that makes sexism unique is that prejudice against women inevitably creates a mirror prejudice about (if not intentionally against) men. If being feminine means having emotions other than rage, men are allowed to experience only rage. If being feminine means caring for others, men are not allowed to care for (or about) others.
While there are certainly forms of feminism which are anti-men (most notably the transphobic strain currently getting more attention than it deserves), feminism is fundamentally as important for men as it is for women and the issues facing men exist precisely because of the history of subjugating women. Womenâs rights are not in tension with menâs rights (unless you mean the demands of damaged and damaging men who insist that they should have the right to rape women and keep one at home as a sex doll, housekeeper, incubator and child minder).
This article is not perfect but it does make the broader point well: If I Admit That âHating Menâ Is a Thing, Will You Stop Turning It Into a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy?:
Thanks for your comment, itâs certainly one of the better considered ones in this thread!
How do we distinguish between legitimate grievances that men may have and the more reactionary/politically divisive. Whenever I hear the above argument, it strikes me as dismissive of legitimate issues and it feels dismissive of my experiences.
In order to affect real change, do we not need to move past dismissing the problems raised by one gender? Isnât it more likely that we change peopleâs behaviour by acceptance of their viewpoint rather than telling them theyâre just being difficult?
I agree with you here, but I think itâs also important to take note of the fact that feminism is a fairly broad church so the idea that there is one âfeminist perspectiveâ which cares about men too is, to my mind, undermined by the negation of the importance of menâs issues I commonly see.
What legitimate issues do you think Iâm being dismissive of?
Iâve come across a segment of society which seems to believe that men donât feel emotions in the same way as women, that they should be tough - not cry, âbe a manâ, âman upâ.
My belief is that a number of men in society are psychologically scarred by regressive beliefs like these and would hazard a guess that these beliefs contribute towards loneliness and suicide. I also believe that itâs a big driver of things like the red pill movement.
Now you might say that this is a feminist issue, in that itâs the result of outmoded gender stereotypes (which probably have a negative impact on women too), and I would broadly agree with you. But until we allow men to come out and say âI suffer too from sexismâ I donât see how we can move past it.
None of the contradicts anything I said. I explicitly said it.
This is the damage wrought by patriarchy. You are not competing with women to get your case heard. It is the exact same case.
I donât believe there is a space in society for menâs to talk about issues like this that affect them. I donât believe there are structures in place to attempt to address these issues.
Itâs certainly a problem, not least because most attempts to start something up attracts men who only want to complain about how itâs all the fault of those devastatingly powerful women and everyone else gives up. But there are some surviving spaces, like the Men & Boys Coalition.