Hi, I would be interested in peopleâs opinion on the future of social media. Would activitypub ever become mainstream among ânormiesâ that lack technical literacy?
How would monetisation work on a decentralized platform? Would the creator be limited with merchandise and promotions without ads?
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This is all conjecture, but:
So overall I think that the fediverse will get huge, but none of the underlying platforms will. The main strength will be how they connect to each other.
The kind of people who obtain information and discourse from reddit would never wish to obtain it from discord. Theyâre not even remotely similar in approach.
Iâve seen at least one sub (r/conlangs) partially migrating to Discord. They might not like it, and I do agree that the approach is not even remotely similar, but Discord is still able to somewhat fill - poorly - the same role as Reddit, so with Reddit going kaboom Discord will partially absorb redditfugees.
Discord is also in a position to absorb some twitterfugees.
If discord adds more persistent web space thatâs searchable by we crawler, I could Discord see become this replacement. Right now itâs too gated behind individual communities.
Fully agree.
I hope that it doesnât though. We donât need yet another centralised platform that can and will go rogue, and is already showing signs that it wants to go rogue.
I still use both and they donât come close to serving the same purpose
Makes me wonder how the inevitable advertising bubble bursting will impact a lot of these platforms, too. A lot of these exist only for advertising.
Iâm gonna guess that youâre on the money for Facebook, though they will break Marketplace into its own service and probably maintain Messenger as well until eventually merging it into WhatsApp.
Reddit is going to get bought up. If they go public, theyâll be undervalued and cheap to buy given all of the controversy and instability among the userbase. If they stay private, theyâll continue enshittifying until costs exceed income and they have no choice but to seek a buyer. The thing about Reddit is that they are valuable and they know it, but they donât have the ability to capitalize on that value with their business model. They are valuable as a training model for AI, and eventually some big company (Google, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon maybe) will buy Reddit for cheap just to use their content as a training model. And potentially de-enshittify the site in the process when the revenue model becomes the content itself instead of the eyeballs consuming it. But I am assuming it will implode eventually once they have everything they need. The company that buys it will spin it off into some AI-driven platform that feeds you the content it knows you want to see and Reddit itself will be slowly phased out.
Agree YouTube will stay, but Googleâs going to start forcing YouTube Premium more. If ad money dries up, I almost guarantee that theyâll impose restrictions or incentives (maybe a combination?) on monetizations for creators. If you make your videos publicly available, you get a miniscule cut and youâre capped at 1080p@30, 10 minutes or less or something like that. But if you make your videos YT Premium exclusive, you get a bigger piece of the pie and better quality/support. Google will up the price of Premium again but break out Music and Ad-Free into separate subscriptions that each cost marginally less than the two together cost today.
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If ActivityPub makes it into being a big deal in the future, Iâd suspect some new stage of growth or development would be necessary. Either something gets added to the protocol or the architecture of the fediverse develops into a more sophisticated set of interacting services or the software ecosystem actually matures into an ecosystem. Without any of that Iâd predict it stays relatively niche.
Should a decentralised protocol actually make it big, it could be game changing. But my âshot from the hipâ bet right now is that ActivityPub and the current fediverse ecosystem is not it.
Apart from that, Iâm actually thinking nothing terribly dramatic happens. Thereâll be some fracturing, but in the big picture it will remain relatively fringe with the core platforms remaining mostly in tact with large user bases.
If thereâs any real tectonic shift, Iâd say that the 2010s idea of social media is on its way out (which is part of the reason why Iâm not betting on the fedi going mainstream, as itâs mostly stuck in the past). I think a big divide breaking now and into the short term future is that between private âtrue communityâ interactions such as in private group chats or on discord etc and public high-utility or high-entertainment content such as youtube, tiktok, wikis and maybe twitter going forward. Private chats will be where you have your network and the public domain will be where you extract value, with AI/algorithmic assistance playing an increasing role, or attempt to become a creator. Another reason why Iâd bet against the fedi is that it tries to walk what I suspect is an awkward middle ground between private and public spaces without actually providing either.
How the great AI-ification affects things, Iâm not sure. Iâd bet it basically pushes social media into a winter of sorts, with the platforms that exist becoming more closed off (see Reddit API stuff) and the value of genuine human-only spaces going up (see private + public comments above).
Amongst all of that, Iâd suspect that the platforms themselves wonât really matter as much any more. Youâll get whatever youâre looking for wherever itâs available from which ever service or creator is providing it, but it wonât be a pleasant experience getting it and youâll feel generally bitter and frustrated by the experience. Meanwhile, youâll have whatever app(s) you need to stay in contact with those that actually matter to you, which again will depend on whoâs using what, not what you chose to use. Otherwise, everyone and everything you interact with will just be an ephemeral and confusing and increasingly detached internet blip.
The patreon / liberapay model is the future.
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Most corporate social media companies convert to a system of content creators that earn a living off their work, either as direct compensation from the company or via embedded ads. Non-professional participation is usually through this lens.
To keep users on the system, private networks are developed and expanded. Private chats and discords develop to full on forums.
Federated networks are out there, but it isnât the default. A lot of it is based on specific fandoms. Likely, this is funded with donations, which starts being problematic as communities become dependent on a set of benefactors.
^ this.
It will become âinfluencer channelsâ and all personal stuff will be minimal.
Corporations will find a way to ruin decentralised platforms and weâll have to find something else to use
Same as it currently is. Maybe some will fade to irrelevance but a new company promising to be everything the other one wasnât for free will appear and the cycle will continue. The focus will go away from user choice and further towards algorithm driven short form content. I could totally see an app that just shows you a 3 second video, then another, then another continuously until you close the app. No input required as the engagement is tracked through the camera.
Same for any content. If successful, it will attract investors. Sell the site to these investors. Use site to sell stuff to captivated audience. Monetize every inch of space.
All these websites need attention. Once they have x amount of eyeballs they get sold. The âweâre just cool guys building a websiteâ only lasts until the money starts being offered.
Iâm certain that some activitypub implementations will be normal with some normies (governments/ universities creating their own socials), but also certain there wasnât be one implementation that all normies are using.
In the same vein I think there will be a greater portion of users who are active on many platforms. 5 years ago most people engaged with content on a single chosen platform. In 5 years most people with engage with many platforms.
I think the common theme amongst all platforms will be a desire to control the content we see.
In other words, order will be restored following the distaserous era of the big corperate unisite
Big tech companies run out of new users to exploit and they end up collapsing (since in a capitalistic model you either grow or youâre doomed). With these companies going down, all the internet infrastructure goes down, unable to fight simultaneously the power shortages due to unavailable resources and the continuous strike of workers who cannot afford a livable wage anymore and civil wars in a world where natural disasters are more and more frequent.
With the internet down the society as we know collapses.
Now social media is people telling stories around a campfire.
Those who say dumb mean shit get slapped hard in the face.
Humankindâs healing process begins.
Donât even talk about it!
In ten years weâll have virtual rooms that we can explore with VR headsets. No matter which platform, theyâll all be connected, but who sells the best headsets will matter.
The metaverse is supposed to take off eventually as young kids start using it.
We went over a related business case in my MBA just yesterday. You can look at what Adidas did: they partnered with the Bored Yacht Ape Club to produce NFTs that ended up selling for $22 million. That marketing strategy hinges on working with recognizable folks that are already established within decentralized areas. And thatâs what itâs probably going to be about, at least at first: building relationships rather than direct monetization. Itâll actually be really nice, probably.
Except thatâs how all internet platforms start. Then itâll be enshittified. You know what enshittification isâŚbut if you donât:
So, I predict over the next 5/10 years, as the metaverse gets set up and whatnot, social media might become slightly less shitty for some time in there if youâre willing to engage on these decentralized metaverse platforms. Because you know damn well that Reddit and TikTok are going become thoroughly eshittified until all the value is extracted from them, and users will have to look for alternatives.