I’m trying to find the author and the title of a painting that I vaguely remember.
The painting shows a man painting a woman. It looks like an ordinary self portrait but if you look closer you will see that the painted woman has an arm going out of the picture and is directing the arm of the painter.
I think the painted woman was the master of the male painter?
I think it’s from Italy, 17th century (very vague reminiscence here)?
I keep thinking about Artemisia Gentileschi but can’t find any link to something similar
Any help would be appreciated, it’s driving me crazy
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The first one here?
https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-these-women-artists-influenced-the-renaissance-and-baroque
Yes! Well done. Thanks a lot. You’re amazing
It is Self-portrait with Bernardino Campi by Sofonisba Anguissola, ca. 1550
You’re welcome! My first lazy google search gave immediate results (renessaince painting artist portrait of woman italy). :D
This intrigued me so I tried asking some AI; and in typical AI fashion, they gave me very wrong answers very convincingly.
Gpt4 is convinced it was Vermeer’s “Art of Painting”, and gave a very verbose - but completely wrong - description of how the woman was directing the painter’s arm. The BingGPT version even gave me links… to websites with completely unrelated paintings.
Google bard insists it was Goya’s “The Double Portrait”, and gave a very detailed analysis and critique of the painting. It’s very convincing, except for the fact that I couldn’t find a painting by that name by Goya…
So I’m sorry I couldn’t be of much help. I just found the whole thing amusing.
Scientists: we made this neat thing that approximates human sounding speech!
Everyone: I’m going to believe every word this thing says
“We trained it on social media.”
“Why does it keep making stuff up and then getting argumentative if called out?!”
Somehow the model that Bing uses is extremely aggressive in gaslighting you. It would be funny if it wasn’t so reminiscent of some of the most abusive relationships I’ve seen irl…
Hopefully you’re in a better situation now, I’m sorry to hear you’ve had to go through that.
I guess I’m fortunate that I tend to associate it with some of the worst conversations I’ve had with people on Reddit rather than anything more personal.
Thankfully (almost) none of the experiences were first-hand. In my friend circle, I just happen to be the person they know will take any story they tell to the grave without telling a single soul.
Gaslighting is a scourge mostly because, in my observation, it usually is the first mechanism invoked when someone is being defensive. And it works so well many victims don’t recognise it as a problem.
And I guess as you said earlier, being modelled on human interactions, it just makes sense that it’s the favourite defense mechanism of a conversational AI.
I had someone tell me the other day that they ask AI chatbots for things that they want the correct answer for. They use it as a jumping off point to do more research to find the correct answer. Tbh, I flipped my shit a bit and kept saying “you know it’s not designed to just know the correct answer to everything, just to generate sentences from data collected online”.
The fact that people use AI text generators for legitimate inquiries is just so incredibly concerning to me that I could hardly believe it to be true. And I don’t know how to respond to it.
Even weirder was that Google asked me the other day if I wanted to turn on AI generated answers for my search results. Wtf? Why would I want random convincing sounded nonsense to populate my search results??
I tried to do the very same. Here I thought AI was the end of “tip of my tongue”. Though I suppose it can only read descriptions of the painting.
Nah, it’s just the tip of your halucinations…
Thanks for trying. It’s entertaining to read at least!
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Absolutely! Well found, you’re great!